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Well, AMD is launching carrizo in march/april... still nothing about AM4.

TheStill said that ZEN will be smaller than Skylake and will reach around 4.0-4.5GHz. Could be ZEN more power efficient?

Will Carrizo desktop be both AM3+ and AM4? I noticed it supports both DDR4 and 3.

That is possible however AM4 socket is rumored to be launching soon most likely in March

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That is possible however AM4 socket is rumored to be launching soon most likely in March

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If I can get it this way I can slowly move myself into Zen without having to buy new memory, board and processor all at once.
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That is possible however AM4 socket is rumored to be launching soon most likely in March

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If I can get it this way I can slowly move myself into Zen without having to buy new memory, board and processor all at once.

Looks more and more like the case and yeah thats what I was thinking

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Looks more and more like the case and yeah thats what I was thinking

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I heard this isn't Carrizo but Carrizo+ as in it's gone from improvements since the flagship drop on laptops last year. So it should be faster than what Carrizo to Kaveri would've been.
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Hmm, probably there are going to be cheaper AM4 MBs with support of DDR3.
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Looks more and more like the case and yeah thats what I was thinking

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I heard this isn't Carrizo but Carrizo+ as in it's gone from improvements since the flagship drop on laptops last year. So it should be faster than what Carrizo to Kaveri would've been.

That would make sense.. I don't have any full information on it other than hearing this before.. so all my thoughts would be just conjecture however lets follow for a second

if lets say corrizo + is say 5% faster or so than carrizo, and say zen is able to hit the same or just below haswell clocks.. if haswell is 40% faster than carrizo (XV cores) then having that 5% increase from the Carrizo + (if this is what AMD is stating) that would put Zen with the 40%+ statement just below or right at Skylake..

There are a lot of ifs in there but I think its something to think about. and I will also say.. this is not to create hype but would it be possible?
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Hmm, probably there are going to be cheaper AM4 MBs with support of DDR3.

Like the change for AM2+ to AM3 with ddr2 and ddr3?
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Hmm, probably there are going to be cheaper AM4 MBs with support of DDR3.

Problem is that Zen supports DDR4 only and so it would cause a hardware conflict to have an AM4 board that supports DDR3.
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Hmm, probably there are going to be cheaper AM4 MBs with support of DDR3.

Problem is that Zen supports DDR4 only and so it would cause a hardware conflict to have an AM4 board that supports DDR3.

No there where boards that supported both DDR2 and DDR3 .. just depends on the chip if the memory controller was able to support it.
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Will Carrizo desktop be both AM3+ and AM4? I noticed it supports both DDR4 and 3. I may want a Carrizo before a Zen till I can save up enough and slowly transplant the Carrizo into the AM4.

There is no chance in hell that AM3+ will be part of the mix. There are rumors that certain athlon carrizo SKUs will hit FM2+ though.
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There is no chance in hell that AM3+ will be part of the mix. There are rumors that certain athlon carrizo SKUs will hit FM2+ though.

I meant FM2+ derp.

Look how fast the FX-8800P benchmarks to the A10-7850k .

https://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A10-7850K+APU&id=2133

https://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8800P&id=2567

They are so close to each other and one is tops 35 watt tdp and the other 95 watt tdp.
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