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If you're shrewd enough, there is a way to get a 5960X for less than $100 that DOES NOT involve stealing or anything illegal, but would require some luck and a lot of patience.

Easy. Scrape eBay. In 2025.

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Zen just has to be as fast as Ivy Bridge and a lot cheaper for me to buy it. But if its faster than Broadwell and a bit cheaper as well then it becomes a no-brainer. Good OC performance obviously would be a massive swing in its favour.
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Easy. Scrape eBay. In 2025.

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Meh, that would never be worth it. Core 2 Extremes are still worth much more than I'm willing to pay for what they are. I'd pay $20 for a QX9770 though biggrin.gif
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All I know is my 4.3GHZ Steamroller A6 7400k scores only 24% behind I7 5820k(Haswell E) in Passmark single threaded IPC. That's 33% over Phenom II 955 and 21.5% over Bulldozer 8150. I am not worried about Zen IPC.

One other interesting fact is the A6 scores 15% BETTER in Passmark SSE than i7 5820K!
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This is what I want from Zen

Within 10% IPC of haswell
3.0ghz + clock speed
8 integer cores
95 watt TDP
~200$

Why not ask for a pony while you're at it? wink.gif
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Why not ask for a pony while you're at it? wink.gif

I want a unicorn instead. Same price or go home.

By the time we can get haswell and beyond performance in an 8 core for $200, you can count on everybody on OCN saying 32 core or forget it tongue.gif
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Take a look in the FX-8150 Single and Multi scores, and compare one overclocked FX-8350@4.9.

http://valid.x86.fr/vdypw0

A good margin of diference. Also some Intel CPU´s in the comparison.

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CPUz


R15 Multi


R15 Single


R15 MP Ratio

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All I know is my 4.3GHZ Steamroller A6 7400k scores only 24% behind I7 5820k(Haswell E) in Passmark single threaded IPC. That's 33% over Phenom II 955 and 21.5% over Bulldozer 8150. I am not worried about Zen IPC.

One other interesting fact is the A6 scores 15% BETTER in Passmark SSE than i7 5820K!

Edited by jclafi - 1/28/16 at 12:47pm
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All of that seems plausible except for the 200$ pricepoint. I am not saying they will not have a Zen option at 200$, but I doubt the 8 core will be that option. With that description, that 8 core/16 thread will be giving haswell i7s a run for their money, dependent on workload and on clock rate. That product would be very competitive and IMO, No way that would be priced below 300ish

I mean the 4 module/ 8 thread version. I could never make use of a 16 integer cores anyway.
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So seronx says that zen will be disaster?
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So seronx says that zen will be disaster?

They say a lot of things. I'd take anybody who speaks so authoritatively with the customary packet of salt.
     
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