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So seronx says that zen will be disaster?

Hell of a prediction for a product not seen outside AMD.
    
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So seronx says that zen will be disaster?

Seronx is a FD-SOI and CMT design fan. With Zen AMD went away from both SOI and CMT therefore Seronx is hostile towards it, that's all.
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Seronx is a FD-SOI and CMT design fan. With Zen AMD went away from both SOI and CMT therefore Seronx is hostile towards it, that's all.

The way CMT is designed without a REALLY strong FPU it's pretty much pointless.
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If AMD can really reach haswell level of performance it will be a stunning achievement.I want to believe, but I am skeptical they can cover that much ground in one generation.
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If AMD can really reach haswell level of performance it will be a stunning achievement.I want to believe, but I am skeptical they can cover that much ground in one generation.

Why would such a thing be a stunning achievement? AMD has surpassed Intel's architecture in the past.
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The AMD Athlon days were a long time ago, and an unique set of circumstances not likely to be repeated.
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The AMD Athlon days were a long time ago, and an unique set of circumstances not likely to be repeated.

Yet one failed CPU architecture doesn't formulate some kind of pattern of a company's inability to create CPU architectures. If that was the case, Intel would never have recovered from the Pentium 4.
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The AMD Athlon days were a long time ago, and an unique set of circumstances not likely to be repeated.

This is horrible logic, and AMD competing with Intel wasn't just once.

Might want to brush up on your knowledge of history.
    
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This is horrible logic, and AMD competing with Intel wasn't just once.

Might want to brush up on your knowledge of history.

Yep, AMD has shown itself throughout its history that one thing it knows how to do is design CPU architectures. AMD has had a long line of architecture successes outside of the Athlon, including their 8088, 80286, Am486 Am5x86, K5 and K6 architectures. While some came to market late and others didn't get the support it often needed (K6's 3DNow!), they were all good, often eclipsing Intel's alternatives. AMD has accomplished a lot, all despite being a much smaller company than Intel and many times on the brink of bankruptcy. As I said before, analysts often predicted AMD's doom prematurely.
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This is horrible logic, and AMD competing with Intel wasn't just once.

Might want to brush up on your knowledge of history.

That isn't logic, it is a statement.

With the exception of Athlon, AMD has always been behind intel. The circumstances around athlon were unique, in that AMD acquired a great deal of talent from another company, and intel bet heavily on a dead end architecture. You can put your ego away now.

My Statement: AMD matching haswell would be great, but seems unlikely .

Response: u hait amd

Ridiculous. The proclivity of people on this forum to make mountains of mole hills. Let it go.
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