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They have to keep the platform fresh, believe it or not... and, of course, Carrizo is being released for FM2+ as well as AM4, so that's pretty awesome (I have a FM2+ system for my HTPC, Carrizo options may be quite nice to have - along with a nice, low power, Polaris GPU).

Zen is also the better part of a year away...

I am surprised by AM3+ getting some new life, though. Maybe AMD is going to try to win some love and package Carrizo in FX-form? I would be really surprised... I'm going to have to do some more BIOS digging (Carrizo for FM3+ confirmed that way).

Sure, FM2+ I can understand but AM3+, come on now. Even though I have an AM3+ build I don't see no point in it anymore. Just to refresh it with USB-C? Who cares? It's not like they are going to pump out more PD FX chips (for the love of god I hope they don't..there are too many already). Ex chips on FX? Well, that would be good news but too good to be true I think.
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Sure, FM2+ I can understand but AM3+, come on now. Even though I have an AM3+ build I don't see no point in it anymore. Just to refresh it with USB-C? Who cares? It's not like they are going to pump out more PD FX chips (for the love of god I hope they don't..there are too many already). Ex chips on FX? Well, that would be good news but too good to be true I think.


Because AM3+ still sells, simple as that, People buy pildriver FXs, motherboards are sold,so vendors refreshed their lineup.
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Because AM3+ still sells, simple as that, People buy pildriver FXs, motherboards are sold,so vendors refreshed their lineup.

Because Im sure they don't have the current rev in piles already. rolleyes.gif
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Given how long they've been selling AM3+, I wouldn't be surprised if they're out of older rev even at the relatively low number of sales. I did an AM3+ build when Piledriver came out back in 2012 and just did my last one 1 month ago.
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Because Im sure they don't have the current rev in piles already. rolleyes.gif

The platform is projected to be on sale for at least 11 months more, so no, during that period they were bound to produce more. Also keep in mind that vendors compete with each other. When AsRock (which has been supporting M.2 on some 990FX models for 2 years now) and MSI updated their models with USB-C etc, the rest had to follow because their older models were less attractive.
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Just like all AMD CPUs since K8, Zen has integrated memory controller. The memory controller in Zen supports dual channel DDR4. In order to have 32 cores and eight memory channels per processor, four dies will be used in the same package (MCM config).

No, it's a 2x 16 core config in a single die. So it's a quad channel DDR4 controller.
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The platform is projected to be on sale for at least 11 months more, so no, during that period they were bound to produce more. Also keep in mind that vendors compete with each other. When AsRock (which has been supporting M.2 on some 990FX models for 2 years now) and MSI updated their models with USB-C etc, the rest had to follow because their older models were less attractive.

How is AM3+ supposed to be on sale for another 11 months when AM4 is supposed to come out on Q2 the latest? rolleyes.gif
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The platform is projected to be on sale for at least 11 months more, so no, during that period they were bound to produce more. Also keep in mind that vendors compete with each other. When AsRock (which has been supporting M.2 on some 990FX models for 2 years now) and MSI updated their models with USB-C etc, the rest had to follow because their older models were less attractive.

I guess they need to provide the updated hardware, to the 6 people who'll be buying these this month. biggrin.gif
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How is AM3+ supposed to be on sale for another 11 months when AM4 is supposed to come out on Q2 the latest? rolleyes.gif

Well carrizo will be APU. Zen will come in Q4.
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No, it's a 2x 16 core config in a single die. So it's a quad channel DDR4 controller.

If AMD makes a 16-core die on 14nm LPP, I'd be quite surprised. The margin should be there to make it a viable product, though... however, a 16-core CPU with dual channel memory!?!? Doubtful.
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