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Not believing anything that comes out of AMD's mouth till I see it....who remembers how much they hyped up Bulldozer?...what a joke.

Really want them to do well though, we need the competition.
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Not believing anything that comes out of AMD's mouth till I see it....who remembers how much they hyped up Bulldozer?...what a joke.

Really want them to do well though, we need the competition.

It's like you haven't read most of this thread. rolleyes.gif
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BTW, I used Intel's superior cache numbers from Sandy Bridge (96GB/s, 28-cycle latency). AMD has never proven to be capable of that level of performance with their L3 caches, but we'll just assume they managed it for Zen.

Why compare to a CPU that's over 5 years old? Skylake has way better L3 numbers, though L3 bandwidth has proven not to matter much for performance with Intel's recent CPU gens. L3/L4 capacity has shown much more notable gains but having the same amount of L3 and improving its bandwidth by 30% is often invisible in games and many benchmarks.
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It's like you haven't read most of this thread. rolleyes.gif

Yes because every thread I come across on OCN I'm going to go through every single page/post possible, I read the article.
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It's like you haven't read most of this thread. rolleyes.gif
yeah every single zen thread has half a dozen responses like that.
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yeah every single zen thread has half a dozen responses like that.

True, well just read everything by @looncraz and @The Stilt
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True, well just read everything by @looncraz and @The Stilt

Do you blame him though? How many times has AMD overhyped something, and under delivered? Seeing is believing, and right now everything is pure speculation.
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Do you blame him though? How many times has AMD overhyped something, and under delivered? Seeing is believing, and right now everything is pure speculation.

Not at all, but to be uninformed is willful at this point. This thread is filled with stats/graphs/calculations from some very smart people who have a much better idea than most.
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Not at all, but to be uninformed is willful at this point. This thread is filled with stats/graphs/calculations from some very smart people who have a much better idea than most.

A lot of calculations were made during the Bulldozer days too. AMD's employees went as far as ridiculing anyone who didn't agree with their stance. Speculate away, believe whatever you want, I personally will not believe anything until reliable benchmarks are out and we're a good 6 - 10 months away before that happens.
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What about Zen and coldbug? Do you think there will be no coldbug for LN2 fun?smile.gif
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