Originally Posted by 7850K
I'd say it says a lot about AMD's engineers. the 4th gen of a terrible uarch surpassing the first gen of an excellent uarch that is now in it's 6th generation.
You can spin that either way. Either AMD is terrible because it took four generations to beat a piece-of-crap architecture (compared to Sandy Bridge
and beyond), or they have completely turned Bulldozer
upside-down, inside-out, and put it where it was never originally designed to go — inside ludicrously thin laptops (at the cost of poor vendor design choices, mind you).Bulldozer
was never really meant to leak out of the server market, originally ... but, AMD marketers decided to put the binned dies to good use, which is what any company in AMD's situation would do (with common sense). It's also not good to waste material, so there's that too.
Originally Posted by Fyrwulf
If Zen can get within shouting distance of Broadwell's IPC and then close the rest of the performance gap with brute force, it's going to get really
interesting. Especially if Samsung can get their 10nm process out on time for Zen+.
I am predicting a 4.00 GHz Zen
quad-core to sit nicely between the i7-3770 and i7-4790T. And I think it's safe to assume 4.00 GHz will only be a Turbo Core frequency, or the result of an overclock. As Zen
matures, I think we will see 4.00 GHz stock.Edited by DylRicho - 2/24/16 at 6:34pm