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I dont even have time to try all games let alone buying all of them @ $60.

Usually it is the Time that is the bottleneck. I use to think I am fine with paying $20 for a game, then I watch my game library grow faster than I can finish them, I put my budget down to $10 then $5 and now $2.50 but my game library still growing faster.

Games companies should make limited but super quality games, not a lot of average quality games. It has been sometime I see a very good games that is a MUST have. And yes IMO GTA V suck, Witcher 3 suck because I am nick picking to maximum.

now they are putting on DRM on it. I guess that is 2 more games I cross off from my buy list lol. I have still 2 far cries games that I havent even touch lol.

Do they even realize that if they can make their games is super good, they can sell a lot of copies because people just love them & piracy wont matter? It is just that simple.
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Nothing good will happen by locking out lot of people from using your product. I buy a lot of games even preorder some. I am from a developing country. My hobby wouldn't have been pc gaming if not for piracy during school days. I don't like never ending questing in witcher 3 but i will support them any day for their stance.

My biggest concern with uncrackable DRM is that it might make unofficial game modding impossible. I love them. I would not buy a GTA if some uncrackable DRM stops me from flying that mega Yatch while pretending to be Hulk. Same goes for Fallout, Skyrim, Witcher etc
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1. Hasn't it been confirmed by multiple people that Denuvo damages SSDs from the way the DRM works? I don't have SSDs now, but I'm planning on moving to an SSD only PC later this year.

2. Can you still mod games that use Denuvo and they will work flawlessly? Unless of course it's the mods fault, i.e., the mod being incompatible with the game patch version.

If it damages SSDs or you can't mod the game, I'm not even going to bother buying it.

People who are complaining about how difficult it is to pirate game that use Denuvo, good. There is no reason to pirate games anymore, not with Steam refunds anyway. 2 hours gameplay time is more than enough to find out of the game doesn't work or if you don't like it.
    
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i cannot remember the last time i had a pirated game - Anti-Tamper Tech, all for it,if they were to bring prices down thumb.gif


pirated gams, those that are jobless, and many are worldwide, can you blame them when a game is more than half your benefits, or others that are on a 20hr contract redface.gif
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1. Hasn't it been confirmed by multiple people that Denuvo damages SSDs from the way the DRM works? I don't have SSDs now, but I'm planning on moving to an SSD only PC later this year.

2. Can you still mod games that use Denuvo and they will work flawlessly? Unless of course it's the mods fault, i.e., the mod being incompatible with the game patch version.

If it damages SSDs or you can't mod the game, I'm not even going to bother buying it.

People who are complaining about how difficult it is to pirate game that use Denuvo, good. There is no reason to pirate games anymore, not with Steam refunds anyway. 2 hours gameplay time is more than enough to find out of the game doesn't work or if you don't like it.

1 - No. It would be incredibly difficult and require a SIGNIFICANT amount of transfers per second to actually damage an SSD...Denuvo essentially authenticates the same way Steam does but, with a license that's stored on your PC, which is why it stays when you uninstall the game...Even the transfer per second "theory" is just that, a "theory" but, it is technically possible.

2 - Of course.
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i cannot remember the last time i had a pirated game - Anti-Tamper Tech, all for it,if they were to bring prices down thumb.gif


pirated gams, those that are jobless, and many are worldwide, can you blame them when a game is more than half your benefits, or others that are on a 20hr contract redface.gif

As someone has already said in here, games are a luxury item, not a requirement. If you can't afford to pay £50/$60 for a game, then save up to buy it. If it turns out you don't like the game, it doesn't work for some reason or it's a broken mess, you can get a full refund as long as you request the refund within 2 weeks of purchase or 2 hours of gameplay time. There is literally no reason to pirate games anymore.

Denuvo is also PC only IIRC. Chances are, if you have a PC that can run modern AAA games, you aren't going to be on benefits.
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1 - No. It would be incredibly difficult and require a SIGNIFICANT amount of transfers per second to actually damage an SSD...Denuvo essentially authenticates the same way Steam does but, with a license that's stored on your PC, which is why it stays when you uninstall the game...Even the transfer per second "theory" is just that, a "theory" but, it is technically possible.

2 - Of course.

That's good then, thanks.
    
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For the gamer who travels with a laptop.... This DRM is not a good thing and what if there is no internet connection? Want me to just NOT buy the game and only play when I have one?

They need to stop putting barriera because those also kill sells and I know they mean well and all, but if todays games are a sign of whats to come why should I keep playing games?

To me... 7/10 Games a year are GARBAGE , non tested or have many bugs, 0 content, online only, Online Downloads only...

Games just keep getting worst... The majority, that is.

I'm getting too old for this...
    
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As someone has already said in here, games are a luxury item, not a requirement. If you can't afford to pay £50/$60 for a game, then save up to buy it. If it turns out you don't like the game, it doesn't work for some reason or it's a broken mess, you can get a full refund as long as you request the refund within 2 weeks of purchase or 2 hours of gameplay time. There is literally no reason to pirate games anymore.

Denuvo is also PC only IIRC. Chances are, if you have a PC that can run modern AAA games, you aren't going to be on benefits.
That's good then, thanks.

I know there not an necessity and games went up to an extent to cover piracy, been the same with music - but if they could not be pirated, prices will not go gown - greed on their part
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Originally Posted by andrews2547 View Post

1. Hasn't it been confirmed by multiple people that Denuvo damages SSDs from the way the DRM works? I don't have SSDs now, but I'm planning on moving to an SSD only PC later this year.

2. Can you still mod games that use Denuvo and they will work flawlessly? Unless of course it's the mods fault, i.e., the mod being incompatible with the game patch version.

If it damages SSDs or you can't mod the game, I'm not even going to bother buying it.

People who are complaining about how difficult it is to pirate game that use Denuvo, good. There is no reason to pirate games anymore, not with Steam refunds anyway. 2 hours gameplay time is more than enough to find out of the game doesn't work or if you don't like it.

1. Link. What my small brain understood was that each start generates a cryptic key that validates against the machine. Something similar to what Microsoft does with its authenticator app.

2. No game has been released on Denuvo that was previously known for modding, so cannot be commented upon.
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I know there not an necessity and games went up to an extent to cover piracy, been the same with music - but if they could not be pirated, prices will not go gown - greed on their part

No sir.

Gaming prices never adjusted for DRM efforts against piracy. Not once, not ever.
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