Originally Posted by Chakravant
GoLDii3, if you consider a request for common civility to be an attempt at censorship, I recommend we stop this discussion now.
You never made any claims. This conversation started in post 37, with you asking me to support my claim. I have. You continue to misrepresent my evidence.
It doesn't matter what country you take a poll in. Once you have a statistically relevant sample size, it is valid. You don't need to randomize your country or anything like that. You just need to poll enough people. I feel you really need some statistics classes, because your claim of exceptionalism due to regional influence just is not backed up by the math or science.
I still feel you are being intentionally disingenuous with your claims here. The "picture" you claim supports your position does not, as evidenced by the sentence immediately prior, which I feel is why you cut it.
"However; here’s where the claim that PC gamers are pirating their games at 90% rates begins to fall apart."
The article proceeds to pick apart the claims you seem to think it is making.
Kotaku is not written in Swiss. Why can't you seem to understand that?
I apologize if I missed an edit somewhere, I did try to extricate our conversation from your multi-person reply.
No you did not. Your claims aren't supported not even a bit. All you got is that article done on Switzerland and Netherlands. And it's not relevant enough to generalize 190 countries.
The intel article you posted does not offer anything meaningful besides disproving Ubisoft's claim that 90% of PC gamers are pirates.
This is what the sentence you're saying im cutting out says:
"However; here’s where the claim that PC gamers are pirating their games at 90% rates begins to fall apart.""To put this into an even broader context. Estimated Global PC Sales(Retail/Digital)/F2P-Users/Subs/SNS-Games for 2011 is as follows: ◦Between 240-310 million units""Yet.. this isn’t feasible since again as we noted earlier in order to see those kinds of numbers pirated you’d have to make the top 5 list on the TorrentFreak list. Which Ubisoft doesn’t."
The only claim the article is picking apart is the one made by Ubisoft,using sales information and the TorrentFreak's mentioned article.Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
"Why the flare up? Ubisoft’s CEO (Yves Guillemot) recently made the following statement that created quite a stir and put a spotlight on this issue that’s been picked up all over the news.
“On PC it’s only around five to seven per cent of the players who pay for F2P, but normally on PC it’s only about five to seven per cent who pay anyway, the rest is pirated. It’s around a 93-95 per cent piracy rate, so it ends up at about the same percentage. The revenue we get from the people who play is more long term, so we can continue to bring content.”
But whatever fits your agenda i guess,you don't need a genius to know piracy creates monetary loss,and your attempted justification of "but it's not a significant monetary loss" really is laughable.
Does not matter if it is or it is not,it is still a monetary loss wich should not happen in the first place.Edited by GoLDii3 - 1/25/16 at 3:35pm