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If thats the thinking, it would make sorting games easier in the future. Anything that does not accompany a DRM is worthless

Clearly. DRM is a obvious sign of quality.
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Notice how I said "Pirating isn't hurting ANYONE here". Are you hurt by piracy? Is anyone here? I'm not saying that piracy doesn't hurt anything ever, just that all the crying by people in this thread doesn't make sense.

My point was that everyone keeps throwing around "work for the money" or "use Steam" as if that's a choice for everyone all the time. Plenty of people work their butts off and fingers to the bone every day and still couldn't afford a game after working a week. So there for because of that SCREW THEM! THEY AREN'T ALLOWED LUXURY ITEMS! Yeah, because that's fair. Has nothing to do with your random birth in a country that allows people these privileges. Go work in some third world countries and work like they do and get paid like they do and tell me that pirating a game or movie isn't going to interest you when the only thing you might be able to afford is a VHS copy of Murder She Wrote.

It's a backwards way of thinking. The USA isn't everywhere else. We're lucky. We get luxury items because those that can't afford them make them for us. So there's no reason why they should get them...lesser thans!

As far as DRM goes I hope everyone that supports it won't mind not being able to play the games they paid for when the servers that support their authenticity shut down like has happened with some Securom games. Those old PC games of yesteryear I can still enjoy because I don't need to activate them...before DRM PC gaming was just absolutely doomed, huh? Either way, that's off topic and not the point of my argument.

It doesn't matter where you live or how much money you have, something that isn't needed to keep you alive is a luxury item. No one has ever died from a lack of video games and no one ever will. If you can't afford them, save up and buy the game that you want. These days, there is no reason to pirate at all. Not with Steam/Origin refunds, thousands of dedicated game review websites as well as hundreds of regular video game reviewers who upload videos to YouTube.

Besides, if you can afford $400+ for a console/PC that can run games, you should be able to afford a $60 game every few months.
    
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It doesn't matter where you live or how much money you have, something that isn't needed to keep you alive is a luxury item. No one has ever died from a lack of video games and no one ever will. If you can't afford them, save up and buy the game that you want. These days, there is no reason to pirate at all. Not with Steam/Origin refunds, thousands of dedicated game review websites as well as hundreds of regular video game reviewers who upload videos to YouTube.

Besides, if you can afford $400+ for a console/PC that can run games, you should be able to afford a $60 game every few months.

Thanks for proving my point. Now go tell this to the kids that made the clothes you're wearing in your comfortable home while you typed your comment.
post #174 of 278
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Which begs the question, if these corporate suits are as smart as we claim to be and that greedy and not implementing DRM saves them $$, why would they still want to implement one.

Protect their product from scum stealing it obviously
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Thanks for proving my point. Now go tell this to the kids that made the clothes you're wearing in your comfortable home while you typed your comment.

What point?

The one where you are pretty much saying video games are a right, not a privilege?

The only people who are pirating right now, are people who are cheap and don't want to buy the games and those who can't afford the latest AAA games and they want to play them on release, even if they knew the game was going to come out months (CoD/BF/Assassins Creed, etc. typically released 8 months after they are announced) or sometimes years later (GTA series, Uncharted, etc. typically released 18-24 months after they are announced).

I have read all of your posts in here, and the people who live in the conditions that you are describing mostly don't even have electricity. They are unable to pirate and play video games. They typically struggle to get enough money to pay for food, so where are they going to get the hardware to run the pirated games if they do have electricity?
    
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What point?

The one where you are pretty much saying video games are a right, not a privilege?

The only people who are pirating right now, are people who are cheap and don't want to buy the games and those who can't afford the latest AAA games and they want to play them on release, even if they knew the game was going to come out months (CoD/BF/Assassins Creed, etc. typically released 8 months after they are announced) or sometimes years later (GTA series, Uncharted, etc. typically released 18-24 months after they are announced).

I have read all of your posts in here, and the people who live in the conditions that you are describing mostly don't even have electricity. They are unable to pirate and play video games. They typically struggle to get enough money to pay for food, so where are they going to get the hardware to run the pirated games if they do have electricity?

And can you explain to me how and why this affects you so much? What are you losing by other people getting access to stuff they otherwise wouldn't be able to in the first place? Why do you care? It doesn't hurt you. If anything DRM's like Denuvo is more damaging so why are you supporting it? Whether too cheap, kids that have no jobs or money or those that can't legally get the games due to geo location or can't get movies or games because they're incredibly poor...none of them would buy to begin with...so why does this hurt you so badly? How much money have you lost over this?

What's the problem with minding your own business and letting those that are less privileged have some good things in their lives from time to time? I can tell by your comments you've never been to a third world country or impoverished areas. You keep on with your attitude that I already showed is wrong and messed up. Congrats being born in a privileged country and being paid more in an hour than most make in a day or more. Cool for you. So lucky...because we all know that no one here would ever pirate anything if you couldn't afford it. You'd just go your life with no more games, movies, music, etc...

If you disagree that's fine but at least have a better reason other than "because they're poor they shouldn't be allowed to have the same stuff we get because they aren't worth it".
post #177 of 278
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What point?

The one where you are pretty much saying video games are a right, not a privilege?

The only people who are pirating right now, are people who are cheap and don't want to buy the games and those who can't afford the latest AAA games and they want to play them on release, even if they knew the game was going to come out months (CoD/BF/Assassins Creed, etc. typically released 8 months after they are announced) or sometimes years later (GTA series, Uncharted, etc. typically released 18-24 months after they are announced).

I have read all of your posts in here, and the people who live in the conditions that you are describing mostly don't even have electricity. They are unable to pirate and play video games. They typically struggle to get enough money to pay for food, so where are they going to get the hardware to run the pirated games if they do have electricity?

you need to stop, your being contemptuous and ignorant.

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What point?

The one where you are pretty much saying video games are a right, not a privilege?

The only people who are pirating right now, are people who are cheap and don't want to buy the games and those who can't afford the latest AAA games and they want to play them on release, even if they knew the game was going to come out months (CoD/BF/Assassins Creed, etc. typically released 8 months after they are announced) or sometimes years later (GTA series, Uncharted, etc. typically released 18-24 months after they are announced).

I have read all of your posts in here, and the people who live in the conditions that you are describing mostly don't even have electricity. They are unable to pirate and play video games. They typically struggle to get enough money to pay for food, so where are they going to get the hardware to run the pirated games if they do have electricity?
Sorry, this is very close minded point of view. Just because we can't afford it, doesn't mean that we have to live our entire life without fun or hobby like that.
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My point was that everyone keeps throwing around "work for the money" or "use Steam" as if that's a choice for everyone all the time. Plenty of people work their butts off and fingers to the bone every day and still couldn't afford a game after working a week. So there for because of that SCREW THEM! THEY AREN'T ALLOWED LUXURY ITEMS! Yeah, because that's fair. Has nothing to do with your random birth in a country that allows people these privileges. Go work in some third world countries and work like they do and get paid like they do and tell me that pirating a game or movie isn't going to interest you when the only thing you might be able to afford is a VHS copy of Murder She Wrote.
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A $60 games can go down to $5 after sales, sometimes even $2.5. If the person cant afford it = wait for it to get cheaper.

I am pretty sure $2.5 isnt luxury anymore, if he still have problem with $2.5, may be he shouldnt even buy his gaming device at all.


It is like trying to justify want a TITAN X performance but didnt want to pay for it or wait for Pascal mid end GPU that offer equivalent performance.
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I have read all of your posts in here, and the people who live in the conditions that you are describing mostly don't even have electricity. They are unable to pirate and play video games. They typically struggle to get enough money to pay for food, so where are they going to get the hardware to run the pirated games if they do have electricity?

Clearly you don't know life in the third world.

Millions - tens or hundreds of millions - of people can afford food and electricity, the problem is they have to SAVE to buy computer equipment. They sure as hell aren't going to save money to buy $60 games. Suggesting they "do something" is a morally and intellectually deficient statement, and you see this argument a lot, including here. It's not an option because the lack of social mobility is pretty much what defines those countries as "third world" or "developing".
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