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I'm not talking about people living in tin shacks. I'm talking about people who lives a life that resembles something like a "middle class", people who can afford a house, a car. People who can save for a year or two to buy a new PC, with decent parts.

Those people can also afford to save up $60 every few months for the latest games, or wait a couple of years until they can get those games on sale for $5 or cheaper.

I am one of those people. It took me ~2 years to save up for a used 7950. I still buy games on Steam. Sometimes full priced AAA games, but rarely.
    
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I was just going off AndroidVagetas examples. Chances are, the guy in India working for $1 an hour won't have the money to buy the hardware to run the pirated game in the first place.

Ooh, people can run latest games even on a potato of a system. You underestimate the power of necessity. I think you mistook him for people who do not have food 2ce a day. That's not what he was saying or at least thats what I'd assume: You live paycheck to paycheck, have expenses to pay, have people to take care of etc etc. Now, once in a while the random guy decides to have a little fun for himself just coz, you know he decided to think about himself and happened to like games. Guess what, pay $150 (yup, because not everyone lives in the great america) that would take care of his entire family's food for a month or pay for those greedy EAsoft just because they can. Its not just games apparently. In fact people in US have it easy. Now working, you're eligible for something from the govt, but in these countries, "Survival of the fittest" wouldn't even begin to define.
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Either you're being dishonest or stupid. Copyright infringement ISN'T theft, neither LEGALLY or LOGICALLY. What defines theft is the subtraction of property and the impediment of the other to make use of the property. None of those elements are present in copyright infringement.

Piracy is theft of goods, more specifically digital goods. Digital items hold value.

So how many copies of Call of duty does steam currently have in its store before it runs out ?
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Piracy is theft of goods, more specifically digital goods. Digital items hold value.

No it is not. Inform yourself before spewing nonsense. There is no such thing as "theft of digital goods" in COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT, pirating is unlawfully using a copy, that is not stealing, that is making use without being legally licensed.

There may or may not be monetary loss*, but it isn't theft, and your house breaking analogy is flawed.

* Not literally loss as in losing money, but in losing "potential money".
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No it is not. Inform yourself before spewing nonsense. There is no such thing as "theft of digital goods" in COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT, pirating is unlawfully using a copy, that is not stealing, that is making use without being legally licensed.

There may or may not be monetary loss*, but it isn't theft, and your house breaking analogy is flawed.

* Not literally loss as in losing money, but in losing "potential money".

Unlawful - Adjective - not conforming to, permitted by, or recognized by law or rules.

Yes it is. You are illegally (since you're not doing something that is permitted by law) obtaining AND using that content without a license.

Your semantic-laden argument holds no ground.

In fact, to go a step further, most of the pirated content has EULA's which, again, fervent violation once clicking I agree when you're knowingly not in possession of a license.

- FYI - If you're going to take a moral stance, use language that supports you...Not language that disproves your theory via the dictionary. - Just a thought.
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you need to stop, your being contemptuous and ignorant.

TIA.
I was just going off AndroidVagetas examples. Chances are, the guy in India working for $1 an hour won't have the money to buy the hardware to run the pirated game in the first place.

but he never did mention a guy in india making $1 an hour and i sincerely doubt you would know what they would go through on a day to day bases.

oh yeah saw where you mentioned S.A .
ok, and?
does that mean because i went to a ball game i know what its like to be an athlete?

NO.

but you keep saying those that pirate are to cheap to pay for the game, well now i ask for some proof.

in the meantime educate yourself:
The Media Piracy Report
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Prices are too high. High prices for media goods, low incomes, and cheap digital technologies are the main ingredients of global media piracy. Relative to local incomes in Brazil, Russia, or South Africa, the retail price of a CD, DVD, or copy of MS Office is five to ten times higher than in the US or Europe. Legal media markets are correspondingly tiny and underdeveloped.

My Life as a Gamer in a Third World Country
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Internet is a luxury
Two years ago, there was a kid in my high school bragging about having an internet speed of 2 mbps and everyone was green with envy. I think I overdosed on the Internet when I settled in here in America. I remember calling Optimum and I actually thought they were kidding when they said that the basic plan was 25 mbps Internet speed. Oh America, you have spoiled me rotten. Internet service isn’t offered everywhere in the country either. Services like Spotify or Netflix aren’t particularly appealing for us. Consequently, we mostly prefer games and consoles that enable us to play primarily offline. Most of us just go online to download DLCs or cute stuff for our avatars. It’s not that convenient for us to get Microsoft points either or pay in dollars because not everyone can afford to have debit/credit cards. In addition, we only have one retailer dedicated to selling computer software and video games.

or just continue with your arrogant - if you can't afford it then you don't need it attitude. thumb.gif
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In regards to the post above.

1100 levas. Do you know EXACTLY how MUCH this is? Around 1.5x more than the AVERAGE wage in the country, and just as much as mine (system administrator here).
Are you telling me, to buy this, just in order to get some University homework stuff done?
In terms of dollars, this translates to around 610$.
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In regards to the post above.

1100 levas. Do you know EXACTLY how MUCH this is? Around 1.5x more than the AVERAGE wage in the country, and just as much as mine (system administrator here).
Are you telling me, to buy this, just in order to get some University homework stuff done?

Yes.

The system is the system. Nobody ever once said it was fair or even made the argument that it was...It's not.

Despite that, you are expected to use that software, lawfully - Also as a STUDENT, you get deep discounts on M$ product, if you actually looked into it.

That being said - Pirating it, is not a viable, legal solution, period. Never has been, never will be.
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Yes.

The system is the system. Nobody ever once said it was fair or even made the argument that it was...It's not.

Despite that, you are expected to use that software, lawfully - Also as a STUDENT, you get deep discounts on M$ product, if you actually looked into it.

That being said - Pirating it, is not a viable, legal solution, period. Never has been, never will be.
For you is not viable, for us, it is the only way.
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In regards to the post above.

1100 levas. Do you know EXACTLY how MUCH this is? Around 1.5x more than the AVERAGE wage in the country, and just as much as mine (system administrator here).
Are you telling me, to buy this, just in order to get some University homework stuff done?

Yes.

The system is the system. Nobody ever once said it was fair or even made the argument that it was...It's not.

Despite that, you are expected to use that software, lawfully - Also as a STUDENT, you get deep discounts on M$ product, if you actually looked into it.

That being said - Pirating it, is not a viable, legal solution, period. Never has been, never will be.

But then, if you argue that a person in the US pays for some media to legally use it, shouldn't the same principle hold for fair pricing. Its like the corps want to eat the cake but keep it whole as well.
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