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So it's not crazy to want privacy but it is crazy to recognize that I have no legal right to privacy when I'm in the presence of a listening device which is basically always. With phones, for instance, we're taking GPS, text messaging, email, browsing, microphone, telemetry. Browsing includes my reading material, sexual habits, political views, hobbies, social habits and other easily discerned personal information.

The government placed legislation into a budget bill over Christmas that makes it legal for corporations to covertly invade my privacy without my consent or knowledge, so long as they share said information with the government. That's a fact, not an exaggeration.

Let's accept your premise that I'm crazy for recognizing my loss of legal right to a privacy except while on my own property in the absence of most modern devices. I want the government to obtain a warrant with my name on it before investigating me in this fashion; that's my reaction. If you think that's crazy, so be it.

Only a warrant with my name on it could remove these rights, previously. The government took specific action to change that.
What reaction to this do you consider sane?
Oh...so now there are always listening devices...i was not aware of that. rolleyes.gif

Turn it off maybe? Or are you going to claim that's impossible?

I understand your concern,but the listening device thing is no different from what tinfoil hats have been claiming for ages.
Edited by GoLDii3 - 1/26/16 at 11:03am
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So Microsoft is doing what Yahoo Mail, Hotmail (Outlook.com now, and a MS product), and Google G-mail have been doing since their birth. Oh, except for this part that was left out...
 
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The email scanning is completed locally so no data is sent to Microsoft's servers until you agree.

Which is not what Google does, they actively scan your e-mails to market to you. Happens to be how I saved about 60% off my Kitchen Aid Pro series lift bowl mixer. Google knew I had been looking, and when a huge sale came up, they alerted me.

That said;

These Windows 10, trash tier, hit pieces are getting old and are amounting to nothing but forum spam.

 

Someone give this man a medal.

   
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*yawn* another Windows 10 spying on the world thread. Boring OCN is boring.
     
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WIN10 is free and full of love....
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Well, this thread became as glorious as expected. Nothing but uninformed users showing extreme paranoia.

To Lady; Google Maps harvests a massive amount of data. You can't sit there and scream doom and gloom, as you have in many threads, and then say you use Google Maps.

Further, do you use a cell phone? Yes? OK, "they" have all they "need" on you already.

To the mods; I would shut this train wreck of a thread down. Same crap as every other bad thread.
    
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Oh...so now there are always listening devices...i was not aware of that. rolleyes.gif

Turn it off maybe? Or are you going to claim that's impossible?

I understand your concern,but the listening device thing is no different from what tinfoil hats have been claiming for ages.
You weren't aware of the fact that most people have listening devices incorporated into many of their devices? My smart television, cell, laptop and webcam all have networked microphones.

I'm not going to fall into this reductionist debate you want to have. I'm not saying there's an NSA agent sitting in an office listening to me talk to my child about what cartoons she wants to watch. I'm merely saying they inexplicably have the right to do that without my knowledge or consent and without a warrant. The government inexplicably, yet very specifically, made it legal for corporations to collect records of my most personal day to day activities, so long as they share some of that information with the government.

I don't need to speculate their intentions or even whether or not they even exercise that right. The simple fact that they have acquired unilateral authority over my right to privacy is egregious. The barriers between corporate spying government spying are abysmal, and the government worked very hard to make it that way. Moreover, the government has empowered the corporations to conduct this spying while telling us that it's not occurring. It's trading government accountability for faith in government. It compromises our ability to remain free, particularly for future generations.

If you don't recognize this as an issue, your sanity is in question - not mine.
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Lol, why am i not suprised, I see people are still comparing an OS to services like Google.
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There IS a real problem here though, and that is not what the companies choose to do with our data. It is what our government TELLS them to do, but guess whose fault that is? Yours! Mine! Ours! It is our elected officials (mostly hilariously underqualified right wing senators/congressmen with some hilariously underqualified dems/independents in there too). Blame the partisan system if you want, but in the end it is our duty as the educated minority to help guide the country on technological matters.

I thought this was a good and relevant post.

Feel free to not use Windows 10 but the US government, elected by the people for the people, is what is having a real impact on our expectation of privacy. Elections is how you change governments. Boycotting Windows 10 isn't going to help if there is a built in man in the middle for every communication link.
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Lol, why am i not suprised, I see people are still comparing an OS to services like Google.

Because they are identical in this discussion. They are both products which we sign an EULA to use and both are platforms into which we place much of our data and trust. Similarly, the government puts pressure on them equally to release this data to them. If you like, see my post on the previous page about why the companies aren't even the important part of the overarching issue here.
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Because they are identical in this discussion. They are both products which we sign an EULA to use and both are platforms into which we place much of our data and trust. Similarly, the government puts pressure on them equally to release this data to them. If you like, see my post on the previous page about why the companies aren't even the important part of the overarching issue here.

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