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Well, I'm planning to get a new system with 1440p/G-Sync/IPS/100Hz+ monitor by the end of this year so I'm targeting powerful single-GPU configuration.
well, I'd wait with that 144hz IPS with g-sync for a few months now. PG279Q costs $400 more than MG279Q. That's $400 which you can use to expand your GPU options, including going SLI "GTX 1080" maybe,which would blow a single 980Ti out of the water. I know it uses freesync but who needs g-sync anyway with that sort of GPU power, just run 144hz ULMB/vsync. I'm telling you it's just as good,you can ask around too.
So let's say $1650 (650+100) for 980Ti + PG279Q vs 2x $550 for two "GTX 1080s" + $570 for MG279Q. Same cost, a lot more GPU power + 144hz 1440p IPS (no g-sync). Of course this is just a vague scenario, IDK if "GTX 1080" will cost same as GTX 980 at launch. But you can safely bet that two GP104s will murder GTX 980Ti.
Edited by Klocek001 - 1/27/16 at 2:23am
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Well if nothing else, a die shrink allows you to cram MOAR COREZ more transistors into the same area
No, a die shrink makes the die smaller.
The manufacturing process is what allows smaller transistors and ultimately more transistors within the same area/space.
Edited by alphabet - 1/27/16 at 2:35am
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umm the "1080ti" in 2017 ?? why does this not make sense whatsoever to me if the 1080 is released in april, why would they wait so long? it's probably gonna be arround the same time frame as they did 980ti.. I don't know.
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umm the "1080ti" in 2017 ?? why does this not make sense whatsoever to me if the 1080 is released in april, why would they wait so long? it's probably gonna be arround the same time frame as they did 980ti.. I don't know.

If the new 1080 brings similar or a bit better performance to the 980 TI, and AMD doesn't bring something much better, they will use those dies to make and sell the new titan card.
Once the titan cards sales starts to diminish, they will make the 1080TI.

Again, this is speculations, but it will most likely really depends on when and what AMD are going to bring.
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Stop the 1080 thing, will have different name, why u think they named the GM200 980 Ti, and had a different gpu ?
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Stop the 1080 thing, will have different name, why u think they named the GM200 980 Ti, and had a different gpu ?

I know what you mean but what else is everyone going to call it? It's alot simpler to just call it the 1080 for now as everyone knows what's being discussed, the successor the the 980/980 Ti. No matter how horrible the placeholder name is.
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My guesses:

HD -> R
GT/GTX -> GT-R
Ti -> V-SPEC
TITAN -> OLYMPIAN

R and GT-R sound pretty cool.
Edited by TopicClocker - 1/27/16 at 5:20am
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May I ask, how did the 900 series go? What makes you think they would suddenly go back to an old formula? Why would the 1080 be the big die, when that wasn't the case with the 980 on the 900 series? They figured out a new formula to maximize profits, they aren't suddenly going to change that.

It's very illogical, if you look to the most recent history of how their series of cards were released.

It's most likely going to be:

GTX 1050 - GP 106 (or 107) - GDDR5 4GB
GTX 1060 - GP 106 - GDDR5 4GB
GTX 1070 - GP 104 - GDDR5X 6GB
GTX 1080 - GP 104 - GDDR5X 6GB
GTX 1080 Ti - GP 100 - HBM2 8GB
GTX Titan Y - GP100 - HBM2 16GB

How Nvidia chooses to line up their product offering doesn't rely explicitly on past line ups. It's not some formula they choose simply because it's what they have done int he past. Market forces have a big impact on these decisions--specifically what comes from AMD. If AMD releases a competitive product then Nvidia may go with what we have seen years ago.

These die lineups and product numbers reflect individual graphics cards positioning in the market. If the top of the line consumer card requires a GP100 die in order to position itself competitively in the market, then Nvidia will do as much. If that is not a requirement, then nvidia will chose the die that positions it best relative to cost to manufacture, competition and profit margin.

780 was a cut down GK110 most likely due to the information Nvidia had on what AMD was going to bring with the 290x and the fact that they couldn't use GK104 and have a card that could compete with the 290/290x. I'd say AMD performed better than Nvidia was expecting with their 290x which forced the release of the 780ti a mere 4-5 months after the 780 release, combined with massive price cuts across Nvidia's product lineup.

Thing's aren't quite so black and white and they don't make decisions just because it was structured that way last product cycle. There are other forces at play which have a FAR greater impact on how Nvidia will choose to position it's products.
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No updates on NVLink? I want to know which platforms will fully support it.
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well, I'd wait with that 144hz IPS with g-sync for a few months now. PG279Q costs $400 more than MG279Q. That's $400 which you can use to expand your GPU options, including going SLI "GTX 1080" maybe,which would blow a single 980Ti out of the water. I know it uses freesync but who needs g-sync anyway with that sort of GPU power, just run 144hz ULMB/vsync. I'm telling you it's just as good,you can ask around too.
So let's say $1650 (650+100) for 980Ti + PG279Q vs 2x $550 for two "GTX 1080s" + $570 for MG279Q. Same cost, a lot more GPU power + 144hz 1440p IPS (no g-sync). Of course this is just a vague scenario, IDK if "GTX 1080" will cost same as GTX 980 at launch. But you can safely bet that two GP104s will murder GTX 980Ti.

Are you suggesting that I should stay on HD4000 and just wait for Pascal ? Currently my side work for video editing is on hold and these new games are meh but this 980Ti is so damn tempting smile.gif
    
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Sounds very early for HBM2.

Samsung has had sampling of HBM2 for 9~ months now and has just recently entered mass production. Mass production doesn't mean sampling, it doesn't mean ramping up, it means mass production. As in you can buy it in large batches.
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