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Originally Posted by BiG StroOnZ View Post

Yes, but it has been almost four years since the 600 series launched, so I don't see them going back to an older formula that might have originally been the norm.

they actually did so with 700 series.
it isn't that illogical really, they could go with this.
GTX1050 = GP106
GTX1050Ti = GP106
GTX1060 = GP104
GTX1070 = GP104
GTX1080 = GP100

and on a side note, a cut-down GP100 can be placed in GTX1080, with the full die being a Titan and GTX1080Ti.
Edited by epic1337 - 1/26/16 at 12:46am
post #52 of 293
if that vaguely sketched road map is true then it's good, Titan Pascal will drop first at a price so ridiculous I don't think it will affect 980Ti resale market by more than 10%. I'll have plenty of time to decide between getting a 1080Ti or second 980Ti after the prices drop.
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it isn't that illogical really, they could go with this.
GTX1050 = GP106
GTX1050Ti = GP106
GTX1060 = GP104
GTX1070 = GP104
GTX1080 = GP100

they actually did so with 700 series.
and on a side note, a cut-down GP100 can be placed in GTX1080, with the full die being a Titan and GTX1080Ti.

May I ask, how did the 900 series go? What makes you think they would suddenly go back to an old formula? Why would the 1080 be the big die, when that wasn't the case with the 980 on the 900 series? They figured out a new formula to maximize profits, they aren't suddenly going to change that.

It's very illogical, if you look to the most recent history of how their series of cards were released.

It's most likely going to be:

GTX 1050 - GP 106 (or 107) - GDDR5 4GB
GTX 1060 - GP 106 - GDDR5 4GB
GTX 1070 - GP 104 - GDDR5X 6GB
GTX 1080 - GP 104 - GDDR5X 6GB
GTX 1080 Ti - GP 100 - HBM2 8GB
GTX Titan Y - GP100 - HBM2 16GB
post #54 of 293
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Originally Posted by madpossum View Post

So no reason for anyone with a top level Maxwell card to upgrade until June of next year. Unless you want to waste $1,000+ on a Titan card. I was waiting on Pascal to upgrade, but if this is true I may opt to try and find a good deal on a new/used 980 Ti instead and wait for the 1080 Ti a year later.

You assume too much. This generation is designed for increased computational power. I am probably the only one on here that doesn't play video games.
post #55 of 293
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May I ask, how did the 900 series go? What makes you think they would suddenly go back to an old formula? Why would the 1080 be the big die, when that wasn't the case with the 980 on the 900 series? They figured out a new formula to maximize profits, they aren't suddenly going to change that.

It's very illogical, if you look to the most recent history of how their series of cards were released.

It's most likely going to be:

GTX 1050 - GP 106 (or 107) - GDDR5 4GB
GTX 1060 - GP 106 - GDDR5 4GB
GTX 1070 - GP 104 - GDDR5X 6GB
GTX 1080 - GP 104 - GDDR5X 6GB
GTX 1080 Ti - GP 100 - HBM2 8GB
GTX Titan Y - GP100 - HBM2 16GB

theres a massive price gap between GTX960/970/980, while theres an awkwardly small gap between GTX950/960 where theres almost no reason to choose 950 over 960.


it isn't illogical at all, all this does is shuffle the naming scheme, it doesn't affect their decisions in what price points to put them at.
GTX 1050 - GP 106 (or 107) - 128bit GDDR5 2GB
GTX 1050Ti - GP 106 (or 107) - 128bit GDDR5 4GB
GTX 1060 - GP 104 - 192bit GDDR5X 3GB
GTX 1070 - GP 104 - 256bit GDDR5X 4GB
GTX 1080 - GP 100 - HBM1 4GB
GTX 1080 Ti - GP 100 - HBM2 8GB
GTX Titan Y - GP100 - HBM2 16GB

and actually this adds to the advantage of making an "illusion" that their newer cards are vastly superior to their former cards.
imagine the PR they could do with GTX1080 being 50% faster than GTX980.
Edited by epic1337 - 1/26/16 at 12:59am
post #56 of 293
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I never had high expectations for Pascal.. It's been said for a long time that it's more or less Maxwell with a die shrink. The 980 Ti has a massive chip, i doubt the first 16nm chips will even be on par with it.

I'll be waiting until Volta next year, those will be the real monster cards, and when i plan on picking up a 4k monitor. I think AMD is going to beat NV this year, for the first time in years they will finally have a new architecture, looking forward to watching from the sidelines. thumb.gif

Volta is not coming out next year for your computer unless you own a supercomputer. Consumer level chips will be out in 2018.
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theres a massive price gap between GTX960/970/980, while theres an awkwardly small gap between GTX950/960 where theres almost no reason to choose 950 over 960.

it isn't illogical at all, all this does is shuffle the naming scheme, and actually this adds to the advantage of making an "illusion" that their newer cards are vastly superior to their former cards.
GTX 1050 - GP 106 (or 107) - GDDR5 2GB
GTX 1050Ti - GP 106 (or 107) - GDDR5 4GB
GTX 1060 - GP 104 - GDDR5X 3GB
GTX 1070 - GP 104 - GDDR5X 6GB
GTX 1080 - GP 100 - HBM1 4GB
GTX 1080 Ti - GP 100 - HBM2 8GB
GTX Titan Y - GP100 - HBM2 16GB

this gives them a broader adaptability.

HBM1 4GB on the 1080 but then having 6GB of GDDR5X on 1070, this is NVIDIA not AMD they don't make poor choices like that. Likelihood of that happening is a whopping 0%. Do you have any method of predicting the lineup or are you just pulling this out of thin air or using many year old formulas to come up with this most recent lineup? In all seriousness, this is the most ridiculous proposal I've ever seen.

There wasn't a 950 Ti so why would there be a 1050 Ti? Oh wait you are looking at the 700 series for your predictions instead of the most recent lineup the 900 series.... rolleyes.gif

A GTX 1060 with 3GB of memory in 2016? Really that's your proposal? When 3GB is quickly becoming a bottleneck. Please.

I would like to ask you this, why in the world would they go from having the GTX 980 as being the small die, to the GTX 1080 as being the big die. I would like a proper explanation as to why this would make any sense. Again, another thing I will enlighten you on is that the reason for the GTX 980 not being a cut down version of GM200 is to widen the gap in performance between it and the GTX 980 Ti. Which gives people incentive to spend more money on the product. So why, when NVIDIA, has understood that this new employed method of releasing graphics cards makes more money, would they suddenly decide to change that when they can make more money in the current manner that they are releasing graphics cards; the way we have seen with the 900 series?
Edited by BiG StroOnZ - 1/26/16 at 1:04am
post #58 of 293
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HBM1 4GB on the 1080 but then having 6GB of GDDR5X on 1070, this is NVIDIA not AMD they don't make poor choices like that.

sorry i edited the list, the buswidth didn't match up what i had in mind.

GTX 1050 - GP 106 (or 107) - 128bit GDDR5 2GB
GTX 1050Ti - GP 106 (or 107) - 128bit GDDR5 4GB
GTX 1060 - GP 104 - 192bit GDDR5X 3GB
GTX 1070 - GP 104 - 256bit GDDR5X 4GB
GTX 1080 - GP 100 - HBM1 4GB
GTX 1080 Ti - GP 100 - HBM2 8GB
GTX Titan Y - GP100 - HBM2 16GB
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A GTX 1060 with 3GB of memory in 2016? Really that's your proposal? When 3GB is quickly becoming a bottleneck. Please.
you say that when there exists GTX960 2GB?
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sorry i edited the list, the buswidth didn't match up what i had in mind.

GTX 1050 - GP 106 (or 107) - 128bit GDDR5 2GB
GTX 1050Ti - GP 106 (or 107) - 128bit GDDR5 4GB
GTX 1060 - GP 104 - 192bit GDDR5X 3GB
GTX 1070 - GP 104 - 256bit GDDR5X 4GB
GTX 1080 - GP 100 - HBM1 4GB
GTX 1080 Ti - GP 100 - HBM2 8GB
GTX Titan Y - GP100 - HBM2 16GB

you say that when there exists GTX960 2GB?

Tell me, what looks better on the box to a consumer? 6GB of memory or 4GB of memory? Regardless of whether it says "HBM." Also, I don't see any rumors that have ever suggested that HBM1 would be used on their new cards. I've only seen HBM2 and GDDR5X.

Yes there was a GTX 960 2GB but they quickly attempted to remove all of those units from stock to be replaced with the 4GB models to compete with AMD or do you not remember that news article:

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/nvidia-might-phase-out-2gb-gtx-960-in-favour-of-4gb-version/
Edited by BiG StroOnZ - 1/26/16 at 1:10am
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