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Does that mean no new major releases for all of 2017?

My crystal ball only seems until the end of current year, but most likely we will see some updates at 2017.

Overall it will also depend on AMD. If AMD doesn't bring something great, and nvidia keeps leading the pack, they will not bring something big within just one year of release, just like they aren't bringing something big for the year and a half since maxwell release.
If AMD at the end of 2016 or start of 2017 brings something to break the rules, we will see something from nvidia soon after.

Don't forget that the 980 TI was released about 9 months after the 980. So we might see a new titan and a new replacement to the 980 which could rival the 980 TI (like the 980 did to the 780 TI in some cases), and a replacement to the 980 TI only much later (end of 2016?) which will keep them floating until 2017. It again depends of if we see something from AMD soon.
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It again depends of if we see something from AMD soon.

god hadn't answered any of my prayers so, i pray to the devil that AMD does something amazing this time around.
since AMD had just been ridiculous, i mean how much of a side-grade AMD did with their 300 series, and their Fiji can barely keep up.
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Volta is planned for 2018.

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Does that mean no new major releases for all of 2017?

Hmm, we could see a Kepler type launch which was spread out across 1 - 2 years. That also means that the first iteration of Pascal which could likely be the small die will be around 20-50% faster than than GM200.

If you look at the 580 to the 680, the 680 is around 30-50% faster than the 580, the 580 was the big Fermi die, the 680 was the small Kepler die, that was quite a sizable performance gain but nothing extraordinary compared to past GPU generation jumps.

It is possible that they could launch the big die first and then the smaller die after similar to the 400 - 500 series launch, however it seems quite unlikely since the 600 - 700 and the 900 series took a different approach.

It is very plausible that Pascal's big die will have a 80-100% performance increase at the absolute minimum compared to Maxwell's big die.
The 580, Fermi's big die to the 780 Ti, Kepler's big die had a jump this big.

Pascal's small die being 20-50% faster is highly plausible, however a die shrink, coupled with the latest memory technology may provide even higher performance gains than the previous generations have in the past 4 - 5 years. Pascal is on track to have a performance increase on par with or greater than Fermi to Kepler.

A 100% performance increase from big die Maxwell to to big die Pascal is highly probable and quite likely the bare minimum performance increase we will see, especially if Pascal is expected to be on the market until Volta arrives, which is potentially in 2018.
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Nvidia's GPU Technology Conference is in April 4-7 coincidence? http://www.gputechconf.com/
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The new Titan X as what I anticipated with comes 50% more cores than Titan X, given its 2x density but also a 25% area shrink as well.


GP 104 will comes with same 3072 cores as Titan X, but despite the improvement in term of architectural changes, performance will be offset by the lower base clock, giving almost similar performance between the new and old card. The maxwell should be extremely power saving, around TDP of 150W or even lower.


GP100 Titan will comes 50% more cores boost, but the lower clock will also be offset by the Pascal architectural improvement, therefore performance delta should be 50-60% better than Titan X.



Not surprising if the new price scheme will be:

GTX 1080 (GP104) - $549
Titan 2 (GP100) - $999



Titan pascal will most likely comes with 16GB HBM2 instead of 32GB. The only variant i can think of with 32GB is Quadro / Tesla card.
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The new Titan X as what I anticipated with comes 50% more cores than Titan X, given its 2x density but also a 25% area shrink as well.


GP 104 will comes with same 3072 cores as Titan X, but despite the improvement in term of architectural changes, performance will be offset by the lower base clock, giving almost similar performance between the new and old card. The maxwell should be extremely power saving, around TDP of 150W or even lower.


GP100 Titan will comes 50% more cores boost, but the lower clock will also be offset by the Pascal architectural improvement, therefore performance delta should be 50-60% better than Titan X.



Not surprising if the new price scheme will be:

GTX 1080 (GP104) - $549
Titan 2 (GP100) - $999



Titan pascal will most likely comes with 16GB HBM2 instead of 32GB. The only variant i can think of with 32GB is Quadro / Tesla card.
If rumors are true of Pascal being a buffed up Maxwell I hope they do pack at least 4000sp and 33%-50% more ROPs while managing the clock speed of 1300MHz at least.
Edited by Klocek001 - 1/26/16 at 8:15am
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From just memory standpoint alone it should be a game changer for sure. But we will have to see if the PCI-E 3.0 can handle all that, if there is no problem we should really see a jump from more than 20% compared to the previous generation. It's going to be interesting year both for PC and laptops/tablets.


PCIE 3.0 x 16 will handle it easy, but 8 lanes might bottleneck it a bit.
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I dont care about TDP! What do they mean that it will perform close to 980Ti?? I want a 40% AT LEAST increase in performance. I dont care if it works with less energy, I have a 1000W PSU.

Lol what a joke if true
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I find it hard to believe that ti/Titan won't launch until 2017.
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