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Hey there,

I have an ALC889 - ATH AD700s.- they cost me $120us back in 2011.

Anyway, my bro has similar onboard sound (realtek, doesn't use any audio utilities/software - just the drivers) and a $40 pair of headphones. http://www.amazon.com/Surround-Gaming-Headset-Headphone-Retractable-Vibration/dp/B00IZ95BSE

When I game wearing his headphones the quality of sound is certainly not as good, BUT, I feel so much more involved in the game I'm playing as it provides a great atmosphere. The sound is truly surround and is somehow just very engaging (sorry for sounding so vague).

I always thought 7.1 headphones were just a lame gimmick....

OH, and his headphones vibrate at times - it sounds silly but I actually like this feature. Still, 99% of gamers headsets don't vibrate so I'm fine with that too. smile.gif

Any suggestions on what I can do? Budget: $150-300us
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Yeah, buy that headset. You already know you like it. I know that this is generally bad advice, but you already know that you like it.

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post #3 of 9
7.1 surround sound headphones are unfortunately just a gimmick. You're better off going with high quality single-driver per earcup headphones. I'd recommend the Fidelio X2 headphones you can find on massdrop right now for 200 dollars.

EDIT: Oops I didn't read properly. If you really actually like those 'features' then go with the guy above and buy it for sure. If you like it, go for it. ad700 are light on bass though, so maybe you're just itching for more bass.
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Ehhhh, interesting advice but it's only $40 man.

so, I ordered a $130 audio-technica ADH-PDG1. Absolute crap.

Fidelio X2 look good, but, I want closed as they're better for more 'immersive' gaming experience (Based on my research) I don't mind sacrificing a bit of the benefits of open-headphones
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Ehhhh, interesting advice but it's only $40 man.

so, I ordered a $130 audio-technica ADH-PDG1. Absolute crap.

Fidelio X2 look good, but, I want closed as they're better for more 'immersive' gaming experience (Based on my research) I don't mind sacrificing a bit of the benefits of open-headphones

 

What are all the different things you didn't like about the ADH-PDG1s? This will help people with more knowledge than I have to help you choose headphones that you will be happy with because they will know what you don't like.

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post #6 of 9
The main take-away I see is that you are using your onboard sound. The Sades has a usb sound card + software that does the 7.1 processing. You're only getting stereo from the onboard. You can try something like Razer Surround to get a similar experience but I'd recommend getting something more full featured like a Asus Xonar/Sound Blaster Z.
post #7 of 9
Use a good virtual surround algorithm that downmixes 7.1 audio into 2.1 headphone audio.

Right now I'm using Razer Surround Pro and it works wonders in most games. It's incredible how accurately I can place footsteps and such with this DSP enabled. It provides a clear gameplay advantage in multiplayer games. It's also very immersive. There are times when I literally save my game just because I'm so amazed that a specific sound feels like it's coming from the room, like I can reach out and touch it. As long as the game is feeding 7.1 audio and your sound card is also set to 7.1, you will get good results.

The tradeoff is a bit of reverb but it's not really an issue. I'm very surprised that these solutions aren't more popular, because in my experience with Razer Surround and the CMSS3D on the Asus Xonar line have both been extremely positive. Granted I have a very high end headphone setup that has good sound separation to start with, which might add to the effect of these DSPs. But your AD700s also have good sound separation which is why I'm posting this recommendation for you - you should see similar results to me.

FYI I've also used 7.1 headphones and they don't hold a candle either in sound quality or sound positioning to a virtual surround DSP + audiophile grade headphones.
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I use a Creative Soundblaster audio card with Razer Tiamat 7.1 headphones. They have 10 discrete drivers and the sound is immersive. They're very comfortable even on my big ass head. Newegg has them for $160, but I'm sure you could find them for less. A decent sound card would cost $80.
post #9 of 9
I recently bought the Logitech g930 headset. I love the fact that they are wireless. However, the surround quality is mediocre at best. I just played a dvd audio disk that I listen to in my car. It sounds better than stereo, but it was not always obvious where the sound was coming from.
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