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You think a 5400 HDD is fast, have you ever been on a computer with a SSD?
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You think a 5400 HDD is fast, have you ever been on a computer with a SSD?
No that's why i ask. Where can i see sizeable differences beside boot and first program launch ?
 
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what performance ?
windows boot ? it's not a laptop, turn it one once and i's done for the day
programs ? First launch may be a bit slow but then no real problem i guess ?
Games ? May improve load times, no recent benchmarks on that idea, with recent games you gonna install 2/3 on a boot 120Gb lol, also FPS>Load times IMO
Please enlighten me, i never tested any and i find my current 5400 hdd rather 'fast' (not slow i guess)

Not everyone leaves their computer on all day. Maybe not for you no, but this isn't about you!
After experiencing OS installed on an SSD I would never go back. Everything is just generally faster, faster Read/Write etc...
The faster load times on games is handy but as you say; you wouldn't generally install games on the OS SSD.

I just don't see why for the sake of a small amount of money you wouldn't have an SSD for the OS!
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A SSD upgrade is by far the largest upgrade you can do that most agree with is the best bang for your buck for your total user experience. There is the given point that everything will open faster and be accessed faster as well as saves and transfers. The overall user experience on SSD system compared to a HDD system is something that must be experienced to truly appreciate and I'd bet that most that do run an SSD on daily life can never imagine life without them.
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A SSD upgrade is by far the largest upgrade you can do that most agree with is the best bang for your buck for your total user experience. There is the given point that everything will open faster and be accessed faster as well as saves and transfers
by everything do you also mean folders, files...etc (yes also programs i know)?
what saves and transfers ? it would be silly to use an SSD for storage if it is not at LEAST 500 gb (which is still a bit expensive and would scrap off the overall optimized budget)
 
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by everything do you also mean folders, files...etc (yes also programs i know)?
what saves and transfers ? it would be silly to use an SSD for storage if it is not at LEAST 500 gb (which is still a bit expensive and would scrap off the overall optimized budget)
At this point in time i couldn't imagine building a PC without a SSD in it, if you think the prices are too expensive right now then you've never seen what prices were like for SSD's 8 years ago, i will never go back to using hard drives in my rigs. The experience is faster for everything and if you've never used one then you won't be able to understand the overall difference in user experience. It's not just about boot times or program launches, it makes doing everything better. I'd rather use my old Intel X25-M over a hard drive for daily use any day. As for storage whether it be music, documents, movies or anything really you could use SSD's for that, but most people still use hard drives, including me.

So OP, make sure you replace that power supply, i haven't seen the Ultra brand in years, the optical drive could also be dropped if you really don't need it, i don't use one anymore. But everything else looks fine, and try to get an SSD later down the road if you feel up to it.
Edited by jach11 - 2/10/16 at 7:43am
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Have to agree about the SSD. If it won't fit into your budget, make it fit. At least get a small 120gb ssd for your OS/programs. Store data and games on a hdd. If you at least put OS/programs on an ssd your end experience will be much more enjoyable. Once you go ssd you don't go back. Honestly by this point I don't see myself buying another hdd in the future unless I find a reason to need massive storage on the cheap.
     
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hmm, could someone compare the opening load times (both 'cold' and 'hot') of some programs so maybe i see what you are trying to explain to me ?
 
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I'm amazed that someone is arguing AGAINST an SSD. Forget the charts and graphs and load times, it is the personal experience that matters and I can tell you in 30+ years an SSD was the biggest performance gain I ever did. Working on a PC using a HDD is like scraping fingernails on a chalk board!
 
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post #20 of 84
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hmm, could someone compare the opening load times (both 'cold' and 'hot') of some programs so maybe i see what you are trying to explain to me ?
Just looking at how different the technologies work is enough to understand how large of a performance difference there is, even when using AHCI. Just think about it, mechanical rotating storage vs non mechanical circuit based storage.


Edited by jach11 - 2/10/16 at 9:07am
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