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Yeah, I'm pretty impressed with the performance of the 960m in this laptop. Not bad, not bad at all. That 4gb of Vram REALLY makes a DIFFERENCE biggrin.gif .. I would choose this Dell over the Asus GL551 that's the same price, minus a SSD and IPS panel. This Dell is a great deal and has WAY BETTER cooling setup that's for sure. Hope you like that laptop a lot man. Hopefully that lasts you a good few years and that will be sweet thumb.gif

Here's some quick benchmarks of the 6820K @ 4ghz with a 970m so you guys can see the performance jump / difference if you guys are looking for a little more, but it comes at around a $200-300 price jump just to get a 970m, little more on top of that to get the 6820K. It's funny to see that the 6820K @ 4ghz is a good bit faster than a 4.4ghz 4770K desktop cpu. My 4790K @ 4.8ghz gets 960 points.

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Yeah, I'm pretty impressed with the performance of the 960m in this laptop. Not bad, not bad at all. That 4gb of Vram REALLY makes a DIFFERENCE biggrin.gif .. I would choose this Dell over the Asus GL551 that's the same price, minus a SSD and IPS panel. This Dell is a great deal and has WAY BETTER cooling setup that's for sure. Hope you like that laptop a lot man. Hopefully that lasts you a good few years and that will be sweet thumb.gif

Here's some quick benchmarks of the 6820K @ 4ghz with a 970m so you guys can see the performance jump / difference if you guys are looking for a little more, but it comes at around a $200-300 price jump just to get a 970m, little more on top of that to get the 6820K. It's funny to see that the 6820K @ 4ghz is a good bit faster than a 4.4ghz 4770K desktop cpu. My 4790K @ 4.8ghz gets 960 points.


It's not another $200-300 to get a 970M machine here, it's another $500-600, which doesn't merit spending the time saving up. The Dell I got here was almost half the price after tax. For me it was $809.99 and off Xotic PC with the same specs and a 970M would be like... $1500ish also because it requires an OS too and matching the SSD too? So for me, I fail to see any reason to drop another chunk of cash on a laptop with a 970M if it costs THAT Much more.

It was a situational purchase and it's one that's paying off for me every second I use this thing. biggrin.gif
     
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Yeah, I'm pretty impressed with the performance of the 960m in this laptop. Not bad, not bad at all. That 4gb of Vram REALLY makes a DIFFERENCE biggrin.gif .. I would choose this Dell over the Asus GL551 that's the same price, minus a SSD and IPS panel. This Dell is a great deal and has WAY BETTER cooling setup that's for sure. Hope you like that laptop a lot man. Hopefully that lasts you a good few years and that will be sweet thumb.gif

Here's some quick benchmarks of the 6820K @ 4ghz with a 970m so you guys can see the performance jump / difference if you guys are looking for a little more, but it comes at around a $200-300 price jump just to get a 970m, little more on top of that to get the 6820K. It's funny to see that the 6820K @ 4ghz is a good bit faster than a 4.4ghz 4770K desktop cpu. My 4790K @ 4.8ghz gets 960 points.


It's not another $200-300 to get a 970M machine here, it's another $500-600, which doesn't merit spending the time saving up. The Dell I got here was almost half the price after tax. For me it was $809.99 and off Xotic PC with the same specs and a 970M would be like... $1500ish also because it requires an OS too and matching the SSD too? So for me, I fail to see any reason to drop another chunk of cash on a laptop with a 970M if it costs THAT Much more.

It was a situational purchase and it's one that's paying off for me every second I use this thing. biggrin.gif

Not only that but the change in power consumption is quite drastic. I'm sure you got the laptop partly for form factor and that pretty much goes out the window when you're talking a 970m-980m. Yea we know its more power but it seems like the 960m is the biggest chip that is currently available for laptops with a half-way decent form factor.

I've pretty much decided on the XPS 15. I probably won't have it till Christmas unless my tax refund is abnormally large this year. Plus with some CLU I'd imagine I'd eliminate all throttling issues...hopefully. It's a shame we don't have more Thunderbolt 3 boxes. With laptops coming out, they're now starting to include the new thunderbolt 3, just wish they were in high demand. I'd totally kick my desktop to the curb if I could have a 970 powering my laptop vpia thunderbolt 3...

@Imglidinhere, What's your GPU temps in benchmarks or heaven? Do you have overclocking headroom without throttling? I'm very interested to see if, with the right paste job and custom fan profile if there's more headroom in the GPU...
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Are there any benchmarks against a comparable gaming computer with the 2GB GTX 960M

I'm hearing conflicting things on how much that extra 2GB matters for 1080p gaming.


I'm planning on getting a XPS 15 with my student discount. $1000 should get me the i7 6700HQ, 16GB, 256 Pcie SSD, 2GB GTX 960M

I really dig the Dell 7559 but I need an ultra portable and lightweight laptop that also has great keyboard and touchpad feel. Sadly the plasticy feel of the 7559 is a turn off for me.
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It's not another $200-300 to get a 970M machine here, it's another $500-600, which doesn't merit spending the time saving up. The Dell I got here was almost half the price after tax. For me it was $809.99 and off Xotic PC with the same specs and a 970M would be like... $1500ish also because it requires an OS too and matching the SSD too? So for me, I fail to see any reason to drop another chunk of cash on a laptop with a 970M if it costs THAT Much more.

It was a situational purchase and it's one that's paying off for me every second I use this thing. biggrin.gif

Don't take that the wrong way bud, that had nothing to do with your purchase at all. I think you made a GREAT choice in what you bought and it's a hell of a deal, especially when compared to the GL551 from Asus. You can get a 970m gaming laptop starting at $1100 easy, and seen some for sale for $1000 a couple times at Microcenter. I was just saying that incase others were wanting to step up the performance. There's a lot of choices out there for $1100 that comes with a 970m, but most are with a 4710/4720hq cpu or the 6700hq, if you want to get the 6820k then that steps up another $200 or so. It's always nice for everyone to see what options there are and how the difference in performance shows. That's all.

Hell, if I bought the Dell you did when I first started off in my pursuit to get my new laptop, I might have just stopped there and had the same thing you have now. I started with getting that GL551 which sucked big time with the 2gb 960m and no IPS display. It was really bad and always ate up the 2gb of Vram right off the bat and was a pain trying to get games running smooth. With the cooling setup on your Dell, IPS screen, SSD all ready installed and ready to go for only $800, that's a steal for sure. I kept adding $200 when I went back to buy a new laptop because I wasn't happy. Went from the GL551 to the Alienware 15 R2 (open box for $1100), that thing sucked bad too and kept losing the 2nd hard drive which had all my games and work files on it so I couldn't do my work that day. Then went to the Asus G752 and had major issues with the bios not being able to support NVMe ssd's right, nor being able to run just normal ACHI mode for any other drive to work proper. Added another $200 and got my MSI GT72 which was WAY MORE than I ever wanted to spend in the first place, but it's where I ended up and I couldn't be more happy now, except that it doesn't fit in my awesome backpack that was $160 and only fits a 16" laptop doh.gif LOL.

If I had the choice to get the Dell you got, especially with the 4gb of Vram, I think I would have been really happy. You made a great purchase, don't think that post was to say anything bad at all buddy. I was very happy to see how happy you were the first night you posted that you got a new machine for yourself. I've seen you posting around the past few months and thought you might be making a move biggrin.gif

Oh, one thing you might want to try out. Have you tried using HWinfo64 yet? You can control the fan speed in your Dell most likely as I was able to with the Alienware. I would just set the fans to 2500/2300 when I wanted to game, which was like 50% on both, and that dropped my max temps a ton on both the cpu and gpu. You might want to check that out with how sweet the cooling setup is on your new beast?? Hope this helps thumb.gif

Sorry if I came off wrong with that post, was just to give others an idea of what the 970m offered and the 6820k, IF , IF, wanting to go higher in price wink.gif

Ah, see, Dame lol. Microcenter by me now has this model of the Dell like yours kinda. This one being $899 with a 6700HQ and just a 5400rpm Hybrid drive. I would have gotten that, dropped in my 1tb Samsung 850 Evo and called it a day. I would have been more than happy with that and not have looked any further. I wish they had this in stock a month or 2 ago.
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Are there any benchmarks against a comparable gaming computer with the 2GB GTX 960M

I'm hearing conflicting things on how much that extra 2GB matters for 1080p gaming.


I'm planning on getting a XPS 15 with my student discount. $1000 should get me the i7 6700HQ, 16GB, 256 Pcie SSD, 2GB GTX 960M

I really dig the Dell 7559 but I need an ultra portable and lightweight laptop that also has great keyboard and touchpad feel. Sadly the plasticy feel of the 7559 is a turn off for me.

That extra 2gb of Vram makes a huge difference in performance. If you want to play newer games and play them smoothly with nice graphic settings, you will eat up 2gb of Vram very fast especially if you enable 2xAA which is a must for me at least. I had such a bad time trying to game on the 2gb 960m even tho the gpu wasn't hitting 99% usage and running out of steam, it was just hitting the 2gb Vram max and then running like crap, stuttering, lagging, had to drop settings down to low on some, had to down res from 1080p and made the games not even worth playing really. The 4gb 960m will be WAY BETTER by far no doubt. Should play games very smooth with 2xAA enabled and even if it's running around 40-50fps and not staying at 60fps, it should stay smooth. When you hit the Vram limit on a gpu and then it starts dropping under 60fps it gets choppy, stuttery, and not fun to play.
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I'm looking at synthetic and FPS benchmarks of the GTX 960M 2GB vs GTX 960M 4GB and also the same for the desktop 960 2GB vs 960 4GB

and I'm not seeing enough of a different really to warrant dropping my main laptop choice.


Most laptops use the GTX 960M 2GB so...gonna go with that
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I'm looking at synthetic and FPS benchmarks of the GTX 960M 2GB vs GTX 960M 4GB and also the same for the desktop 960 2GB vs 960 4GB

and I'm not seeing enough of a different really to warrant dropping my main laptop choice.


Most laptops use the GTX 960M 2GB so...gonna go with that

You won't really see it in synthetic benchmarks because those are just a number after it runs. That doesn't mean it ran smooth and worth playing to get that number, it just got it any way it had to. It also has to do with the games you want to play. If you want to play games like Black Ops 3 and Star Wars Battlefront, or the new Rise of the Tomb Raider that releases today, the 2gb Vram will affect your performance especially if you are playing at 1080p. That's where it hurts. If you are OK with playing at 720p and are happy, then sure the 2gb card will be fine. I have installed the 2gb and 4gb 960's in many desktops and there's a big difference in how smooth games run. That's for sure. Not everyone cares about that tho, so it's a personally preference then. Also if you plan on playing games in the next couple years those games are going to want more than 2gb of Vram also. Older games aren't as much a problem. 2gb is hard for me to recommend to anyone if they want to game on new titles over the next 2 years. The 4gb 960m just makes a lot more sense.

You can get anything you want tho. I do recommend this dell that Imglidinhere just got. That's a killer deal for what it is and comes with the 4gb model. Not sure what laptop you are talking about?

@ Imglidinhere, Can you record some gameplay video and upload some of that so we can see how smooth things run as you are playing? That might help show how much the 4gb of Vram helps over some benchmark results. Just askin thumb.gif
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I`ve been looking at this laptop recently, might buy in a month when I complete all the money

@Imglidinghere I`ve seen a couple reviews complaining about Wifi issues, have you had any of those?
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Not only that but the change in power consumption is quite drastic. I'm sure you got the laptop partly for form factor and that pretty much goes out the window when you're talking a 970m-980m. Yea we know its more power but it seems like the 960m is the biggest chip that is currently available for laptops with a half-way decent form factor.

I've pretty much decided on the XPS 15. I probably won't have it till Christmas unless my tax refund is abnormally large this year. Plus with some CLU I'd imagine I'd eliminate all throttling issues...hopefully. It's a shame we don't have more Thunderbolt 3 boxes. With laptops coming out, they're now starting to include the new thunderbolt 3, just wish they were in high demand. I'd totally kick my desktop to the curb if I could have a 970 powering my laptop vpia thunderbolt 3...

@Imglidinhere, What's your GPU temps in benchmarks or heaven? Do you have overclocking headroom without throttling? I'm very interested to see if, with the right paste job and custom fan profile if there's more headroom in the GPU...

I'll post the temps and whatnot when I get home. The GPU has yet to break 66*C and the CPU has yet to break beyond 76*C at the same time. Hottest I've seen in benchmarks on other review sites are much higher, but they use the i7 model... which runs a fair bit hotter already. The guy HTWingNut, over at the NBR forums, reported the same temps with the i5 model in his review of it. So that's a plus.

I'm pretty sure I've got plenty of room for overclocking too. The 960M isn't the best overclocker but it's decent. I'll push it a little bit once I've broken it in a bit more. smile.gif
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I`ve been looking at this laptop recently, might buy in a month when I complete all the money

@Imglidinghere I`ve seen a couple reviews complaining about Wifi issues, have you had any of those?

I've had zero issues with wifi. Signal strength is decent for the card it comes with, nothing super fancy, but it gets the job done. smile.gif Speeds are good too. I can download top notch at all times without any slowdowns.
     
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I've had zero issues with wifi. Signal strength is decent for the card it comes with, nothing super fancy, but it gets the job done. smile.gif Speeds are good too. I can download top notch at all times without any slowdowns.

It's not the card itself, it's the driver that the card is using that's having the issues. Everyone I've seen in the video reviews are saying that it's dropping the connection after a while, then having to reboot. Towards the end of the 2nd video I posted for you on page 1 had the fix for it if you start having issues. You never know though. Maybe your router works better with the driver that's installed now and you won't see any issues. To many variables out there to say it will happen to everyone.

I'm curious too to the temps you end up hitting after gaming for a half hour to hour, or more. I use real temp to record the max temps each core hits while I'm in game and I can check it after I'm done gaming. I also have MSI AB and RivaTuner installed so I can monitor my GPU clocks, temps, and usage while in game, and also my CPU temps, and usage. I like to see that stuff up in the corner for the most part if it's not in my way.

The 3rd vent on that laptop on the side, not the back. Is that exhaust or intake there? Do you feel air blowing out of that one too? Just curious on that??

Then, if you want to drop your temps down, or test if running your fans at 50% the whole time you are going to game for a hour or whatnot, you can try the HWinfo64 and use the middle setting. Sometimes I seen that running 50% all the time was way better than leaving it on auto and it ramping up and down. usually you won't hear the fans at all on 50% either. Double win lol.

Are you getting the new Rise of the Tomb Raider? I got it for free with my MSI GT72 from Nvidia. They are giving it away free right now with purchases of GPU's. That 960m 4gb might be one of the GPU's that get a free copy. It's worth checking out. The game looks amazing and it's in full DX11 biggrin.gif
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2x 360mm Alphacool XT45 / 1x 480mm Alphacool Mo... EK X-Res 140 D5 vario Pump/Res combo + EK X-top... EK Supreme HF cpu / EK Acetal / Nickel with Nic... Windows 8.1 64bit 
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Asus ROG Swift 27" 144hz with G-Sync Samsung 65" 7150  Logitech G510s Corsair AX1200 
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Thermaltake Core X9 custom painted Red and Black Logitech G602 Wireless Corsair Aluminum Core 2 sided  Bose Companion 5 
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4790K @ 5ghz 1.350v 75c max load temps Asus Maximus VI Formula Evga Gtx Titan X @ 1500mhz / 7800mhz +112mv EK Acetal / Nickel / Nickel back plate 
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Corsair Vengence Pro 32gig 2400mhz c11 red (4x8... 6x 256gig (1.5tb) in Raid 0 , OS / Gaming Drive 2 x Liteon 256gig (512gig) storage drives Asus Dvd-RW 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
2x 360mm Alphacool XT45 / 1x 480mm Alphacool Mo... EK X-Res 140 D5 vario Pump/Res combo + EK X-top... EK Supreme HF cpu / EK Acetal / Nickel with Nic... Windows 8.1 64bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Asus ROG Swift 27" 144hz with G-Sync Samsung 65" 7150  Logitech G510s Corsair AX1200 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Thermaltake Core X9 custom painted Red and Black Logitech G602 Wireless Corsair Aluminum Core 2 sided  Bose Companion 5 
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