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post #21 of 55
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Originally Posted by bond10 View Post

Shape is pure preference. You could try a DA Chroma or 2013, I install the drivers, save my settings and remove synapse. I do the same for my Rival 100. Drivers aren't an issue since most modern mice have onboard memory. I personally don't like zowie's shapes, the sensor isn't any different from others, they also re-launch the same mice every 4-6 months with fixes they should done in the first place (started with coating, then updated zowie 2014 to fk2 (they should've launched the FK2 with the FK1...), then the button latency fix on the FK mice, and now mousewheel + omron switches). I'm afraid to spend $60 on a zowie mouse now just to find out they come out with a 3360 and softer clicks refresh 4 later...

I've used the Deathadder 3.5 G, 2013, and Chroma, and I sold them all because I got fed up with Synapse as well as had a lot of consistency problems with the Deathadder overall.

I haven't had the same issues with the EC1 A, and the shape is ever so subtlety different, the major differences are the sensor and firmware. And as far as click latency goes I do not notice it, and according to this review it's plenty fast.

I probably won't buy another mice anytime soon unless it's a EC2 A, and even then I'm still debating it, cause yea unless they have the new sensor and a few other things I don't see the point. The scroll wheel and switches don't bother me at all.


I still had the same problems with future Deathadders, so I pretty much just do not want mice with software at all. I'd rather just function and performance over everything else.
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Originally Posted by 2shellbonus View Post

Actually you can change the polling rate and lod on zowie mice. Unfortunately you need the manual for the mouse button combo. On the other hand you could have software where that would be easy and all the settings would be stored on the mouse, like Logitech, SS does it.

Ducky imo did the best job

DPI button on the bottom, hold it down and press left click to change Lift Off Distance, right click to change polling rate, and the Middle Mouse click changes the LED behavior and the scroll wheel allows you to change the color if you want just a solid LED with no color cycling.

It's honestly all I could ever possibly want, I just wish they went with an ABS body with a soft touch finish cause the mouse is kinda heavy, and makes small movements a little more difficult, since you need more force than usual, and swipes are off, I can't explain it exactly but it feels like it's slower compared to something as light as the EC1 A or Castor.
Edited by Watsyurdeal - 1/27/16 at 1:00pm
post #22 of 55
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Originally Posted by Watsyurdeal View Post

I've used the Deathadder 3.5 G, 2013, and Chroma, and I sold them all because I got fed up with Synapse as well as had a lot of consistency problems with the Deathadder overall.

I haven't had the same issues with the EC1 A, and the shape is ever so subtlety different, the major differences are the sensor and firmware. And as far as click latency goes I do not notice it, and according to this review it's plenty fast.

I probably won't buy another mice anytime soon unless it's a EC2 A, and even then I'm still debating it, cause yea unless they have the new sensor and a few other things I don't see the point. The scroll wheel and switches don't bother me at all.


I still had the same problems with future Deathadders, so I pretty much just do not want mice with software at all. I'd rather just function and performance over everything else.

I don't understand your issue with synapse if you have a Chroma or a 2013....synapse doesn't affect performance for these mice (see the mouse scatter plots in qsxcv's thread), it only kills the older 3.5G sensor models. Also, you can remove synapse after putting your settings...I can understand if you bought a couple of DAs that came with hardware-related issues, that happens with all companies.
post #23 of 55
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Originally Posted by bond10 View Post

I don't understand your issue with synapse if you have a Chroma or a 2013....synapse doesn't affect performance for these mice, it only kills the older 3.5G sensor models. Also, you can remove synapse after putting your settings...I can understand if you bought a couple of DAs that came with hardware-related issues, that happens with all companies.

No see, that's just it, it's weird but once I uninstalled Synapse and turned the computer off, my Deathadders would default to color cycling and a higher dpi. I really do not know why each one had this issue but I pretty much just gave up after that. And like I said before I had sensor issues as well.
post #24 of 55
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according to this review it's plenty fast.

lol "plenty fast" it's slower than mice from 2004.

Anyway, at least with the Diamondback Chroma I could just load the computer to my second ssd, make a razer account with a throwaway email, sign in, create a bunch of profiles with various settings, download "tournament drivers" and then never have to login again.

Their refusal of letting you adjust the profiles themselves after dl'ing the "tournament drivers" is cute though. They seem quite butthurt that no one wants their Synapse to be taken to the NEXT LEVEL.
post #25 of 55
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Originally Posted by HAGGARD View Post

I have literally never seen mouse feet be worn down unusably. How does one even do that, let alone on cloth? My OMB's tiny feet are roughly 10 years old now and as useful as ever.

I play on low sensitivity, have played for 5+ hours a day every day for months and months they wear down very fast. I'd say the amount a low sensitivity player moves his mouse in 5 matches is equivalent to 15 matches for a higher sens player or something like that
post #26 of 55
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Originally Posted by ncck View Post

I play on low sensitivity, have played for 5+ hours a day every day for months and months they wear down very fast. I'd say the amount a low sensitivity player moves his mouse in 5 matches is equivalent to 15 matches for a higher sens player or something like that
I've put about 300 hours just in csgo on my za11 on a qck+ and the feet are as good as the day it arrived. Imo zowie feet are excellent.
post #27 of 55
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Originally Posted by ncck View Post

I play on low sensitivity, have played for 5+ hours a day every day for months and months they wear down very fast. I'd say the amount a low sensitivity player moves his mouse in 5 matches is equivalent to 15 matches for a higher sens player or something like that

What? How's this make sense? A low sens player would need to move his mouse more since he has to cover more distance...Are you running around and spinning 360s lol
post #28 of 55
I really don't get the no optional software=performance feature thing. Also zowie isn't anything special on the sensor end and is subpar on click latency so from a performance standpoint they are subpar.
post #29 of 55
People sure do love to beat on Zowie.

I will say that they've been providing an extra set of mouse feet before it was really customary to do so.

I like that their mouse feet are thin and I won't be double stacking them again, so for me, it's nice that they provide an extra pair.

They make light mice that also have a quality feel in the hand; the shells are rigid.

They make mice in 2, and now 3, different sizes so you can get the shape AND size you want.

And I know shape is subjective, but they make some good ones.

And I like their button click stiffness. 😛
post #30 of 55
Hm lot of hate on the mice, more than usual. Myself, I'm a zowie fanboy. I've had nothing but good experiences with their mice. I currently own an ec1-a, za12, and fk1. Each of them perform consistantly and I enjoy using them. Could I nitpick and find flaws and cons? Of course. I really am not a fan of the scrollwheel, and I'd like it if they would separate mouse 1 and 2 from the body shell. I have a lot of mice in my collection. For me mice are like a garage full of cars. I always switch it up. My zowie mice are the ones I keep "taking out for a spin". Just very good mice in my experience. Extra mouse feet is a plus. It's all preference though. And I've heard of people getting bad units which they tie to hating the brand as a whole, like my experience with FinalMouse. To each their own smile.gif.
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