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Yeah I don't really see the difference between 1440p and 4K once I'm playing and not taking static shots, for some reason you see a big one but okay I'm gonna take that as the reason why you vouch for 4K so much, same as you don't see one between 40 fps and 80 fps,which is really rather amusing to me but if you say so....
80 fps vs 40 fps is like an overwhelming difference for me, this is literally twice as good, while I would call 4K vs 1440p difference rather not that much visible in gameplay. Certainly doesn't look twice as good. I mean while I'm moving fast,like running or jumping rooftops in Assassin's Creed, at 40 fps and 60 hz I really can't distinguish 4K details when there's so much blur and lag.

Different kind of gamer. I MAX settings before caring about fps. Only care about fps if it effect my gameplay. I dont need Witcher 3 to be as smooth as BF4.
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yes,I get it, you don't see any point in having anything more than 60fps/60hz. Some ppl do.

Dude I never said that wth. Stop exaggerating and making up stuff. I have dual 144hz monitors and my previous monitor was 80hz-90hz I believe. It's my opinion about 1080p. I'm not sure why anyone would spend $650+ and shoot for 1080p or less. That's my opinion. There is a difference at 4K and in many games I own I usually don't have to sacrifice quality for performance. A few games requires me to turn down MSAA, but that's usually all that is required. Other games allow me to max them 100%.
    
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Dude I never said that wth. Stop exaggerating and making up stuff. I have dual 144hz monitors and my previous monitor was 80hz-90hz I believe. It's my opinion about 1080p. I'm not sure why anyone would spend $650+ and shoot for 1080p or less. That's my opinion. There is a difference at 4K and in many games I own I usually don't have to sacrifice quality for performance. A few games requires me to turn down MSAA, but that's usually all that is required. Other games allow me to max them 100%.
well, you did say you're not spending more than $350 on 1080p experience, so you omitted 60hz vs 144hz experience, which is the difference between 1080p 60Hz and 1080p 144hz. I just assumed that you only count resolution as gaming experience and refresh rate has nothing to do with it.
I don't understand why ppl would spend hundreds of dollars to play PC at 30 fps, even at 4K same as you don't understand why ppl would drop that much on 1080p/144hz. I didn't mean to steal your sense of wonder that higher resolution makes you experience. I too don't like 1080p that much, but if it was 4K 30 fps and 1080p 144 fps I would choose the latter, I can't even stand action RPGs at 30 fps.
Edited by Klocek001 - 2/1/16 at 1:01pm
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This game is beautiful. Therefore, I find the lack of screenshots in here troubling. Here's some maxed-out, 5K-downsampled eyecandy:






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well, you did say you're not spending more than $350 on 1080p experience, so you omitted 60hz vs 144hz experience, which is the difference between 1080p 60Hz and 1080p 144hz. I just assumed that only count resolution as gaming experience and refresh rate has nothing to do with it.

Well keep assuming because like I stated previously, I never said that. I own a Fury X and my previous cards were GTX Nvidia. I'm no fanboy for either company. I always call it how I see it. The Fury X is putting in work @ 4K as well.

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What I mean is it always like:"I'm choosing AMD cause I wanna play at 4K and 30 fps" or "My card can't run higher refresh rates with lower resolutions, like 1440p at 100fps/100hz,so I'm gonna go for 4K and be happy with 30 fps cause it's the best it can do".

No I still don't see what you mean. I have no issues at higher resolutions and the frame rate and frame times are great. Even with the older drivers from last year. The latest drivers only increased the performance even more @ 1440p\1600p\4K. I can get upwards towards 100fps easily several games @ 1440p. That's not the issue. Eye candy is eye candy if it's a steady experience with decent frame rates.
    
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This game is beautiful. Therefore, I find the lack of screenshots in here troubling. Here's some maxed-out, 5K-downsampled eyecandy:



Oye, the last one is really good, candy for the eyes!
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This game is beautiful. Therefore, I find the lack of screenshots in here troubling. Here's some maxed-out, 5K-downsampled eyecandy:

 
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Beautiful shots! You've got me looking forward to getting some gametime in this weekend.

     
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Me like to think AAA games are not played 144Hz. Does it matter if FO4 or Witcher 3 runs @ 144Hz vs 60Hz? I dont think it does.

Personally for me it does because 144Hz is far smoother than 60Hz, no matter what FPS you are running it. I'm just shocked that your version of TR does not have proper full screen. What's with that?? I'd love to know their reason. I'm just glad the game seems smooth you, which is a positive. thumb.gif
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Interesting discussion going on in here, some people prefer frame-rate over resolution, and some people prefer resolution over frame-rate.

I think it's kind of a weird thing to compare, what you're essentially comparing is image quality vs frame rate.
A higher frame-rate is undoubtedly more fluid and smoother than a lower frame-rate, meanwhile a higher resolution increases the image quality and the graphical fidelity.

Compromises may have to be made where you have to decide between better image quality and a more fluid and smoother frame-rate, as hardware has finite computational power.

If you wish to sacrifice frame-rate for image quality then so be it, it's PC Gaming so we have choices and can control and customize how we experience our games.

I prefer a higher frame rate over image quality.

As-long as the game is rendering at a minimum of 1920x1080p then I'm good and I'll see if I can hit 60fps. If I have to tweak my graphical settings to do it then I will as long as I'm satisfied with trade off between the graphical fidelity and the fluidity of the frame-rate.

I say 60fps because I have a 60Hz display and I haven't experience over 72 fps before due to not having a display with a higher refresh rate.
Edited by TopicClocker - 2/1/16 at 1:47pm
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So..new AMD drivers...

I tested Soviet Installation on my fury (3840, OCed) and performance has got better.

- more fps in general
- I can actually set textures to very high now without getting stuttering =) They are still partially stored in RAM (usage gets up to 8+GB sometimes (overall, not just the game) but I think they have improved texture streaming\unloading..

However, I'd still say this is a piss- poor port (VRAM usage is ridiculous all things considered, some areas are bad fps wise and this can only be fixed by developers..)

PS

S I should clarify perhaps.. I had stuttering with very high textures regardless of other settings.

Now I'm playing @1820x1200 at Very High preset except

-no HBAO+
-medium shadows
-no DOF\motion blur(I don't like these effects)

And Soviet map was pretty smooth compared to what it was.
Edited by Semel - 2/2/16 at 12:23am
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