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Haha that looks good, I would put her right back down and let the loop run for another few years. For science?
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There need to be more fan, res, TIM, and tubing options, the ones in there are a bit too narrow in choice and weigh too heavily on the "ultimate" implication of the kit's name. I get that compared to other kits out there, it does sort of deserve "ultimate", but it can be pretty easily misconstrued as getting all "ultimate" parts in one shot, when it actually ends up being a bit more subjective than objective part by part. It does generally have the most well-balanced options (assuming you're not going to use an automated cooling controller) but I wouldn't call them "ultimate". Again, though, it's a bit more subjective than objective.
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If people wanted a CLC I'm sure they would've went out and bought one already.

The monetary investment in a CLC vs custom loop is a night and day difference (all the parts in my loop add up to a little over $1100, yes I'm definitely on the overkill side but you get the idea), not to mention the extra time and effort you have to spend on researching and maintaining your loop. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say those looking into a custom loop more likely than not either don't care about CLCs, or want something that performs/looks better.

While you can, in theory, spend a lot on water cooling it is not mandatory. Pretty reasonable loop can be had for as little as about 200 EUR. For example:
http://www.aquatuning.de/water-cooling/kits-und-systems/internal-kits/13670/alphacool-nexxxos-cool-answer-360-lt/st-set?c=485 for about 186 EUR. 360mm rad, 10/13mm tubing, etc. Throw in an Alphacool GPX block (or a full cover if available) and you have GPU also covered for about 300 EUR total.

At the bottom end the gap in price between CLC and a cheaper end custom loop starter kit is not very huge. In the ballpark of 30 .. 50 % in price or about 60 .. 70 EUR.

Now if one stretched the budget already as far as this kit goes then ofc CLC is not in the same league. So the question at this price point is already if its a better value than getting similarly priced custom loop or not. For 500$ I am not sure about it and suspect that if one does his homework somewhat better performance can be achieved from that kind of budget. Like, for example, starting with something better than a single 360mm slim radiator wink.gif Or if the goal is bling bling then 500$ should be able to bring in somewhat more of that at similar performance as well.
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well,a custom loop might be fun and all, but I'm glad we have high end CPUs that draw less than 100W and can be kept under 60 degrees by a good dual tower like D15 while the cost is down to 20% of a custom loop. CLCs are overhyped as for the CPU cooling, but a simple 120mm one with one fan keeps a card like an overclocked 980Ti under 50 degrees in games,all at a fraction of a cost of a loop and waterblock. Not to mention installing your system from scratch using an air cooler and a clc'd GPU takes an hour and is basically error free.
post #25 of 113
I personally can't justify water cooling, especially when my Noctua NH-D14 has run my 2500k at 4.8ghz 24/7 for over 3 years now and never broken 63 Celsius. That is what a 32nm CPU? So when I upgrade to 10nm or Kaby Lake, I am looking at even cooler temps already. /shrug I like big hunks of metal. biggrin.gif
    
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I personally can't justify water cooling, especially when my Noctua NH-D14 has run my 2500k at 4.8ghz 24/7 for over 3 years now and never broken 63 Celsius. That is what a 32nm CPU? So when I upgrade to 10nm or Kaby Lake, I am looking at even cooler temps already. /shrug I like big hunks of metal. biggrin.gif
a lot depends on the TIM and architecture, look at 4790K without solder and with avx instructions. still, my 4790K never broke 65 degrees in any game, and my D15S is a modified version with just one fan,not to mention my case is like the worst one you can have for airflow.
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a lot depends on the TIM and architecture, look at 4790K without solder and with avx instructions. still, my 4790K never broke 65 degrees in any game, and my D15S is a modified version with just one fan,not to mention my case is like the worst one you can have for airflow.

ye I have great airflow, and I added a triple fan. when it comes to delidding, I am more than happy to pay someone $40 to do it for me... but that day is a long day away, as I see no reason to upgrade for quite some time.
    
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ye I have great airflow, and I added a triple fan. when it comes to delidding, I am more than happy to pay someone $40 to do it for me... but that day is a long day away, as I see no reason to upgrade for quite some time.
well what I said just goes to show how great the new high-end air coolers are.
I'm also considering a clc gpu with my next purchase, what I'd really like to see is extended warranty for clc cards. 36 months is way too short, I'd rather see 5 or 6 years, were it only for the cooling.
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This this and so much this. I miss my loop, h100i doesn't even come remotely close, in fact the air cooler (NH-D15) we used on my fathers 5820k performs about the same if not a tad better and is QUIETER under load. You get what you pay for with cooling.

I like it, anybody who got into water cooling years ago is envious.. I remember have to go through plumbing hardware to find fittings, spending lots of cash and having constant problems sad-smiley-002.gif

In my day you had to make your own dang loop kids! teaching.gif

Isn't a full custom loop with the same radiator would yield maybe 1-2 degree better than those Corsair CLC?
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I personally can't justify water cooling, especially when my Noctua NH-D14 has run my 2500k at 4.8ghz 24/7 for over 3 years now and never broken 63 Celsius. That is what a 32nm CPU? So when I upgrade to 10nm or Kaby Lake, I am looking at even cooler temps already. /shrug I like big hunks of metal. biggrin.gif

63 Celsius at 100% full load? and at 4.8ghz what voltage?
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