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Why did they go with Heatkiller IV Pro instead of EK Supremacy EVO? The ek looks way better and performance is on par.

Looks like they intentionally got every part from a different supplier as to keep the peace.
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I can't imagine your power bill.

I did some Bitcoin mining back when I had a crossfire setup, and it certainly wasn't profitable in the central Texas summer.

Basically have to endure it being 80-90F inside since trying to go lower would be to expensive. Reason I smack water blocks on all my computers and have them near the A/C.

Just glad I finally bought a dehumidifier makes the Summer a bit easier to bare.

The kit looks interesting, but rather just go custom parts. Though, my first water cooling attempt was with a XSPC Rasa 360 kit. tongue.gif
     
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No AIO/CLC can touch the cooling performance of a custom loop. That's just a fact. If you're more into AIO units, this kit is obviously not for you. Watercooling is a hobby and a passion, and while it's not for everyone, it's here to stay until they can shrink PCs down to the a size where watercooling wouldn't even be possible.

I wholeheartedly agree. While getting from my Ultima 90 to my H50 shaved roughly 10c, and moving from the H50 to an H70 (1st gen, not the new one) shaved another 4-5c on my ole i3-550 @ 4.7 GHz, my first custom loop shaved another 12c on top of my H70. Only then i considered dealing with big socket CPUs.

Also, i do really want to see any CLC trying to cool anything with over 115x contacts and keep a delta of 5-10c over ambient at full load, when your ambients are 30-35c. My H70 couldn't cool my W3530 at stock speeds that well, and it was only a quad-core. My current loop keeps my E5-2670 chugging along at 45-47c when fully loaded in BOINC, and it's the same 32nm tech as the 2500k/2600k which can run cooler due to the fewer cores, cache and PCI-E lanes.

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Rigid, while superior for the reasons you stated, requires you to know precisely how you plan on doing your lay out ahead of time and give you zero margin for error. There are too many little things people doing their first loop don't know without first hand experience. The first build never lasts long as there is always something that needs to be changed, added, or reversed.

Now, once you have a couple builds under your belt, you can properly plan a custom loop without any issues, that's when you go rigid.

edit: The tubing they are using is actually really good and none of the issues that come up with soft tubing will show up before the loop has been taken apart for adding more to it because, lets be honest, it's addictive. Anyone who gets this kit will be ordering GPU blocks, more rads, etc. etc. in a few months anyways.

After roughly 3-4 loops, i still do not feel that much good with rigid tubing. I know myself, and i know i will change my GPU in 6 months, add a second one, change brands, change CPU block... Rigid tubing would only hinder me, as i would have to redo almost the whole loop every time i change anything. I have never had any issues with plasticizer as well.

I might go rigid on my next build, but then again, i will change case to a Caselabs, among other things. If you are willing to really invest on something, best add a lot of elbow grease as well.
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Even with the southern California summer heat (95f+ temps during heatwaves I never felt that I should water cool.
That's the reason why I wanted to do it, so pretty...

That's because a 2500k can hit 5ghz on air, it isn't pumping out a ton of heat, same with the 770.

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I wholeheartedly agree. While getting from my Ultima 90 to my H50 shaved roughly 10c, and moving from the H50 to an H70 (1st gen, not the new one) shaved another 4-5c on my ole i3-550 @ 4.7 GHz, my first custom loop shaved another 12c on top of my H70. Only then i considered dealing with big socket CPUs.

Also, i do really want to see any CLC trying to cool anything with over 115x contacts and keep a delta of 5-10c over ambient at full load, when your ambients are 30-35c. My H70 couldn't cool my W3530 at stock speeds that well, and it was only a quad-core. My current loop keeps my E5-2670 chugging along at 45-47c when fully loaded in BOINC, and it's the same 32nm tech as the 2500k/2600k which can run cooler due to the fewer cores, cache and PCI-E lanes.
After roughly 3-4 loops, i still do not feel that much good with rigid tubing. I know myself, and i know i will change my GPU in 6 months, add a second one, change brands, change CPU block... Rigid tubing would only hinder me, as i would have to redo almost the whole loop every time i change anything. I have never had any issues with plasticizer as well.

I might go rigid on my next build, but then again, i will change case to a Caselabs, among other things. If you are willing to really invest on something, best add a lot of elbow grease as well.

I know it's a fact that custom loop is always better than CLC, but that was before when CLC like the H50 , H70 were nothing compare to a custom loop.

But it's 2016, and all the new CLC like the Corsair H110i GT / GTX, they're pretty much on par with a custom loop, you can go look them reviews that compare to Swiftech kits and other Complete Kit from like EK + Alphacool. Also, a good custom loop will cost at least $500, when a CLC is like 1/5 of the price which is around $100-$150 only. And I'm talking about a loop for the CPU only, like a Corsair H110i GT compare to a CPU Custom Loop with the same Radiator (i.e. the Rad from the Corsair H110i GT is the same as the Custom loop, including the thickness)

The only reason for ppl to go custom Loop now is for the Look and Aesthetics and prob less Noise (more Rads /w low RPM fans). I'm not trying to Bash on Custom Loop or anything, cause I myself is trying to build a Custom Loop cause I like how it looks and I like to look at the beautiful Coolant / Liquid running inside the Loop, especially the Reservoir.
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So has anyone priced the parts separately to see how good or bad of a deal this is? Sometimes bundles can be a great value and other times they are a rip off.
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I wholeheartedly agree. While getting from my Ultima 90 to my H50 shaved roughly 10c, and moving from the H50 to an H70 (1st gen, not the new one) shaved another 4-5c on my ole i3-550 @ 4.7 GHz, my first custom loop shaved another 12c on top of my H70. Only then i considered dealing with big socket CPUs.

Also, i do really want to see any CLC trying to cool anything with over 115x contacts and keep a delta of 5-10c over ambient at full load, when your ambients are 30-35c. My H70 couldn't cool my W3530 at stock speeds that well, and it was only a quad-core. My current loop keeps my E5-2670 chugging along at 45-47c when fully loaded in BOINC, and it's the same 32nm tech as the 2500k/2600k which can run cooler due to the fewer cores, cache and PCI-E lanes.
After roughly 3-4 loops, i still do not feel that much good with rigid tubing. I know myself, and i know i will change my GPU in 6 months, add a second one, change brands, change CPU block... Rigid tubing would only hinder me, as i would have to redo almost the whole loop every time i change anything. I have never had any issues with plasticizer as well.

I might go rigid on my next build, but then again, i will change case to a Caselabs, among other things. If you are willing to really invest on something, best add a lot of elbow grease as well.

For sure, there are lots of reasons to use soft tubing. I used soft tubing on my last build because the scale just made rigid tubing unfeasible. Thought about doing a combination of the two, using rigid on the more visible sections like around the motherboard, and soft tubing for the less visible, longer stretches, but it just kind of defeated the purpose of using rigid to begin with.

On my next build, I'll probably use straight runs of rigid tubing and lots of elbow adapters for the reasons you listed. That way I can just cut a little off one or just cut a longer section right quick when I change things out.
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So has anyone priced the parts separately to see how good or bad of a deal this is? Sometimes bundles can be a great value and other times they are a rip off.

I already compiled a custom loop with all the parts for my own, and the price came out about the same. So you won't get any cheaper if you buy this loop, so might as well just buy / build your own loop.

In fact, the parts that I compiled for my own loop has Rigid tubings and a much better RAdiator. So this kit is actually more expensive than if you get y our own loop parts.
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For sure, there are lots of reasons to use soft tubing. I used soft tubing on my last build because the scale just made rigid tubing unfeasible. Thought about doing a combination of the two, using rigid on the more visible sections like around the motherboard, and soft tubing for the less visible, longer stretches, but it just kind of defeated the purpose of using rigid to begin with.

On my next build, I'll probably use straight runs of rigid tubing and lots of elbow adapters for the reasons you listed. That way I can just cut a little off one or just cut a longer section right quick when I change things out.

Why do you need to cut the tube? Can't you juse take off the compression fittings and take the tube out?
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I already compiled a custom loop with all the parts for my own, and the price came out about the same. So you won't get any cheaper if you buy this loop, so might as well just buy / build your own loop.

In fact, the parts that I compiled for my own loop has Rigid tubings and a much better RAdiator. So this kit is actually more expensive than if you get y our own loop parts.
That's good to know, at least the premium for it is not ridiculous. I also share your point of view thumb.gif
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