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I don't think this is trolling, just arguing to win a point instead of in an attempt to further the understanding of the real worth of AMD as a company.

They have great IP and I am sure some important talent but they also a weak product stream and a lot of debt. Net worth is a complex topic but I do agree that any potential buyers would much rather wait for bankruptcy and then buy up the good parts without the debt.

It would be crazy for anyone to do anything drastic until after Zen is on the market for at least a few months.
That the negatives cancel out the positives? If you have to pay someone to take it it is worthless in a monetary sense, isn't it?
Price discovery exists in the market, the debt figures & revenue streams are public knowledge, and the forward guidance has been issued. If AMD is a zero now, then it was a zero two or three years ago as well. The only point I care about arguing is the one that ensures the AMD circle jerk doesn't run amok, which of course means that I'm the crazy one and casual claims of questionable veracity are defended.

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post #112 of 173
Honestly AMD has been on the downward trend for awhile. AMD stock is at rock bottom. IF you strongly believe in their upcoming products will sell well then now is the time to invest. I think AMD can certainly do better than they are now with new products such as Zen,VR, and Polaris coming in the near future.
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The worth of AMD will come down to what someone wants to pay for it, and that is really that simple.
    
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All those years of mismanagement is finally taking it toll on the company.
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Probably the same private investment manager that's saying the stock market will go to 0 and we'll have our 2nd depression and WWIII....

AMD is gonna surprise alot of people I think this year and next year. If they can get their new process right with 14/16nm we might see a pretty decent comeback. There's a ton of weight on their R&D department and engineers to meet the expectation that they can compete with Intel and Nvidia... The only AMD product I've ever had was an APG X1300 pro graphics card back in like 199* but I would like to see AMD get their game back, just to make things interesting again. thumb.gif

Not it is not the same company.

And comparing what ATI used to be, and what AMD is now, is like saying an apple turned into an orange overnight.
ATI is no more. And the talents and researchers and leaders in ATI are most likely already gone from AMD for awhile now.
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Not it is not the same company.

And comparing what ATI used to be, and what AMD is now, is like saying an apple turned into an orange overnight.
ATI is no more. And the talents and researchers and leaders in ATI are most likely already gone from AMD for awhile now.
There are still great people left. Raja Koduri is the head of RTG and he designed ATI Radeon R300 (9700).
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This is bullmoderation. I could predict nVidia going bankrupt if they don't get Pascal out the door and intel going bankrupt if they don't fix skylake's bug.
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This is bullmoderation. I could predict nVidia going bankrupt if they don't get Pascal out the door and intel going bankrupt if they don't fix skylake's bug.

Not even close to the same thing, on any level, at all. Your statement completely ignores the absolute facts and literal dollars of the situation. AMD going belly up isn't some remote possibility, but more than likely. They pretty much have one shot to not go under, and even then, Zen if great still might not save them.
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these click bait articles just show the current state of desperation of certain sites, thanks for stating the obvious in a scary way. I love how media these days is all about scare tactics to get traffic. Skylake bug will kill you, oh wait you have to use prime95, you have to disable FMA for it to occur, you also have to test some large FFT size, oh and it might happen, but you should be super scared.
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The point would be that Samsung has zero interest in making any x86 CPUs since their focus is ARM and the mobile sector. They would simply shelve the whole operation and with it cut off Intel from AMD's x86 licenses.

Whoever buys AMD takes on AMD's debt. If Samsung bought AMD they would most likely sell Intel the x86 patents that AMD held to make a hefty sum and nullify the debt. I'm pretty sure Intel would cough up a few billion for them.
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