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I love these topics when gamers and OCers become suddenly economics gurus.
Always fun to read.



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I teach economics for a living thank you very much. As for the rest I am sure plenty of people here are day traders. Just because I game does not mean I do not know anything about how finance and revenue reports work.

EDIT -- AMD is in serious crap and has been for some time. They basically need to report 800 million in profit for the next three years in order to pay their debts. Otherwise they will declare bankruptcy in 2019
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Was any of this not already known within the last 6 months? I agree this is short covering action...

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Idiots can't even read horse dung when it hits them in the face. AMD IS NOT DEPENDENT on the PC market. They will make huge gains in the server space which will see generous growth,for a long time. Their debts are not due for years for the bandwagoners claiming they know AMD will fail this year.
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Idiots can't even read horse dung when it hits them in the face. AMD IS NOT DEPENDENT on the PC market. They will make huge gains in the server space which will see generous growth,for a long time. Their debts are not due for years for the bandwagoners claiming they know AMD will fail this year.
Heresy.
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This has been obvious for a long time.

This article is by one of those Wall Street fraudsters who are trying to rig the market for their own ends. I bet they have bets on this and against in the billions and will make a killing either way.

Considering that AMD's entire market cap is $1.67 billion, I don't see where your numbers are coming from in terms of BILLIONS of dollars' worth of manipulation for their stock. Perhaps you're using the same "spreadsheet mathematics" that AMD typically uses on their Powerpoint presentations of future products' performance...

Regardless, the only number that really matters is 2019. If AMD can't get enough free cash flow (read: profits) to service their relatively massive debts coming due beginning in 2019, then it's all over. They have to pay over $1 BILLION in debt service by 2020 (and another billion between 2022-2024), and if Zen and its iterations don't succeed there's not enough time to make another micro-architecture before going under.

That said, 2017 (when Zen actually hits the market, and not just merely "paper-launched" as AMD repeatedly tends to do) will certainly be quite informative as to whether or not AMD can survive 2019.


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It must be because of crazy maths skills. Head explosion imminent. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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What they’ve been able to achieve on consoles in the current generation, versus the current high-end PC — the current high-end PC specs are at least four to eight times faster than current consoles. The Fury X is an eight teraflop machine. The PS4 is a two teraflop machine. It’s four times more compute in that single Fury.
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If AMD is able to last until 2020, it's relevance will probably be very low. The computing world is moving away from x86, in 5 years desktop usage will probably be half of what it is now. Other ARM CPUs will take up the slack. Maybe it'll get broken up and Intel will buy the Radeon group, then we'll see some real competition on the GPU side between Intel and Nvidia (as they can both afford to pay sponsorship for games to be optimized for their GPU).
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Maybe it'll get broken up and Intel will buy the Radeon group, then we'll see some real competition on the GPU side between Intel and Nvidia (as they can both afford to pay sponsorship for games to be optimized for their GPU).

That's not going to happen, as there's not nearly enough ROI in it for them to justify doing so.
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Intel and ATI. The way it should've been from the start.
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Nooo! I was gonna buy stock and make a fortune of next launch rolleyes.gif

That aside: we don't need Intel to have a monopoly...

Samsung, just buy AMD already!
Were you really? Do you know how much you would have to invest and how much the stock price would have to go up for you to make a fortune?
Might as well invest your money in something else that doesn't need to be doubled to earn a dollar off your dollar.
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I teach economics for a living thank you very much. As for the rest I am sure plenty of people here are day traders. Just because I game does not mean I do not know anything about how finance and revenue reports work.

EDIT -- AMD is in serious crap and has been for some time. They basically need to report 800 million in profit for the next three years in order to pay their debts. Otherwise they will declare bankruptcy in 2019
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