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I get the same impression. Maybe it's because every hooman on earth already has at least a 23" 1080p monitor, and the market is just saturated. Could it be that LCDs were much cheaper a few years ago, because everybody wanted to get rid of their big, fat CRT? If that is the reason, then maybe there will be more demand again when the first mainstream OLED enter the market.

EDIT: Come to think of it, another possible explanation might be that there are just less and less people who actually buy a PC and Monitor combo. Laptops and tablets are far more popular these days.

I'd wager the lower end monitors and the professional grade monitor sales are both going strong, but the market for monitors inbetween, like the gaming monitors, are seeing steady decline. Mostly for the reasons you listed and also the fact that more and more people are probably streaming their PC games to their TV. Why spend $1,000 on upgrading your monitor when you can put that money into a better TV and kill two birds with one stone.
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For desktop or productivity use, yes you are correct.

But as far as gaming, a 21:9 monitor will always see more of the game or content, and have a larger FOV than any 16:9 monitor. No matter the resolution.

What if I squinted? rolleyes.gif
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Except it's been shown that BLB results, mostly, from build quality (and not panel quality), and every major monitor reviewer has given excepcional scores to monitors with AUO panels, including TFTC, PCM, and Prad. Not to mention Samsung has been releasing PLS monitors with sub-90% sRGB coverage and some VA's with banding.

But, sure, let's keep saying AUO is crap.

 

Or more like basically every 120Hz+ 1440p monitor has an AUO panel, has had significant amounts of backlight bleed and awful (and I really mean AWFUL) glow to them? He has a perfectly valid reason to call AUO crap. Because their products recently HAVE been crap.

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It's called price fixing. Both LG and Samsung have been caught multiple times and charged/fined for this, which set a bad price trend in the PC display sector. The market and companies have become complacent with the stagnation in prices. Just think before the influx of 27" Korean monitors, we were paying $850 for them stateside until of a sudden people realized how cheap they were to manufacture in actuality. Makes no sense that we pay exorbitant prices for tiny displays which are easier to produce(less defects in substrate, and less of a profit loss on a bad glass cut in the manufacturing process) than the larger 50-60 TVs. Quality 27" IPS 1440p monitors @120Hz should be selling for $300 USD easy.

Love how these 34" 21:9 or even the 16:9 variable refresh rate displays cost more than a 50" @120Hz high end TV with far more expensive electronics and better quality construction and panels. I understand the consumer TV market segment is a much larger demographic but even taking that into account still does not fully justify the over inflated cost of PC displays. These companies would prefer to maintain a division between to two markets as they don't want to lose there higher profit margins from the PC sector.

With 4K becoming the dominant standard we have come to point were there is almost no difference between owing a 40" 4K TV vs a PC monitor. Companies could easily manufacture a TV with a low latency PC input with an added DP input + variable refresh rate.
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Or more like basically every 120Hz+ 1440p monitor has an AUO panel, has had significant amounts of backlight bleed and awful (and I really mean AWFUL) glow to them? He has a perfectly valid reason to call AUO crap. Because their products recently HAVE been crap.

I think it has more to do while respect to how the panels are designed and assembled in PC monitors. Since AU Optronic panels in the Sony TV's don't really suffer these types of problems, nor the Vizio 4K TV's. We know that AUO is capable of producing good quality panels so either they hand over crap panels to PC monitor manufactures or the Companies assembling them just don't care enough to implement the same level of tight QC control that TV manufactures use.

There is a simple solution to this problem although the practicality of it not so much. Consumers have to demonstrate that they are willing to make a statement with there wallets. Sadly just like the AAA games and pre ordering fiasco, very few follow through. These light bleed problems among the other various issues would cease to exist if we as consumers refuse to hand over over our money for shoddy 2nd rate quality. What incentive do these manufactures have that would motivate them to produce higher quality products when people are more than happy to pay top dollar for Junk.
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post #36 of 74
Looking forward to what comes out of the pipeline in a few months. I was considering going the Asus Ultra Wide route, but I feel it's better to wait for these VA panels at higher refresh rates. I'm also wondering if we will see monitors with > 60 Hz refresh rates at 4K. Even if it is only 90 Hz or so, I would still give that a try due to the larger resolution. Here's to waiting!
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I can't see Samsung using an AUO panel. I would expect it to be their own. Not sure what monitor is in the pictures but it looks like a 3000R one while the AUO panels are 2000R. Either way I'm glad we're getting some decent high refresh rate options instead of just IPS and TN.
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Is 21:9 really that much better for gaming? I was on the wagon to get a 30" 4k monitor, but now I am extremely intrigued. I've never seen a 21:9 monitor in person before, nor have I seen the picture it puts out with it's FOV and what not. Anyone have any example pictures of their own setups? Screen shots of in game FOV would be cool too. Come to think of it, 21:9 would be cool for MMOs right?

What about the idea of a curved monitor?
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Is 21:9 really that much better for gaming? I was on the wagon to get a 30" 4k monitor, but now I am extremely intrigued. I've never seen a 21:9 monitor in person before, nor have I seen the picture it puts out with it's FOV and what not. Anyone have any example pictures of their own setups? Screen shots of in game FOV would be cool too. Come to think of it, 21:9 would be cool for MMOs right?

What about the idea of a curved monitor?

Once you try it, you will really understand.
As our vision is not just a square but much wider, even large screen does not have the same effect as something which feels better your vision, and gives you a more substantial immersion feeling.
People who used to have surround/eyefinity setups will understand it more.
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Is 21:9 really that much better for gaming? I was on the wagon to get a 30" 4k monitor, but now I am extremely intrigued. I've never seen a 21:9 monitor in person before, nor have I seen the picture it puts out with it's FOV and what not. Anyone have any example pictures of their own setups? Screen shots of in game FOV would be cool too. Come to think of it, 21:9 would be cool for MMOs right?

What about the idea of a curved monitor?

21:9 is really amazing.

In any game I play it makes a difference. Does not give an advantage or something perhaps but it makes a difference in immersion. I never tested a curve screen but everyone who tested it whom I trust always says good thing about it.

My next upgrade is a curved 1440p 21:9 monitor fur sure.
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