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One more question. When videos start auto playing on Facebook,t hey start out black and grainy, then after a few seconds start playing normal. What's this about?
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Anyone? Beuller?
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Any Piledriver CPU would be better.

It doesn't matter if it's a 43xx or a 83xx really because most games still don't use more than 4 threads. Although, most games require a quad core minimum, and some won't run without being extremely choppy on a dual core (DA:O).

The core count isn't important, the speed of it is. A 5ghz 4370 will outperform a 4.5ghz 8350 in most games. And with less cores, your chances of getting a high overclock like that are better.

The FX-6300 might be the sweet spot, if you can't afford the 8350 and a good board needed to overclock it high (~$150 dollar board).

The problem with this is that for the same price as a FX-8350 and high end board to reach 5ghz, you could basically get a locked i5 and cheapo motherboard for it that will drastically outperform the FX in pretty much every game.

You really DO need a great motherboard with 8+2 phase VRMs, a great cooler and a LOT of electricity (power bill) to run an 8-core FX at 5ghz. I did it for over a year so I know. If you cheap out on the motherboard or the cooler, it will probably blow up.

A 5ghz FX still can't touch even a locked i5, especially Haswell or newer, in a lot of games. I switched and saw a huge fps increase even with my 4770k at stock.

Umm no, core count is still important, OP I suggest you get the best 8 core you can afford that works with your motherboard, before even thinking about a 6 or 4 core

Also OP try turning off Hardware enabled acceleration see if that hels with the video playback issue
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Also OP try turning off Hardware enabled acceleration see if that hels with the video playback issue
This. It helps a lot of times on problems of that nature.

As far as a CPU upgrade, both core count and single-core performance matter these days. Which one matters more depends on what game it is. But you're on a Bulldozer, and any newer FX should be an improvement. If you had a better motherboard, you could probably hit 4.7-4.8 easily on your chip--4170's were picked cores that clocked better than typical BD's, and they're the only Bulldozers that I'd ever bother with. But the motherboard you have probably couldn't handle OC'ing the chip like that. You can get an 8320e for under $130 these days, and that would give you a nice performance boost both in single-core and in core count, while staying within the safe thermal envelope of that motherboard. Or you could just get a 63x0.

If you decide you want to change the motherboard, too, you might want to consider Intel options. An i5-4460 and a cheap motherboard would be in the same price range and perform better on most games.
     
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Awesome, thank you guys very much.

As for disabling hardware acceleration, the 'Troubleshooting' tab doesn't show up in the display options, is there's something in CCC to change it?

Found the setting in Chrome but curious if turning it off on the system would help games. It has helped with videos so far.
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Awesome, thank you guys very much.

As for disabling hardware acceleration, the 'Troubleshooting' tab doesn't show up in the display options, is there's something in CCC to change it?

Found the setting in Chrome but curious if turning it off on the system would help games. It has helped with videos so far.
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Found it there, curious about system-wide.
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Found it there, curious about system-wide.

That setting is always per-application. So VLC has its own, Flash its own, browsers for HTML5, etc. Video hardware functions are always exposed by the draw layer, each app codes to those functions.

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/891337
https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/vlc-hardware-acceleration.8349/

There used to be a system-wide setting for all GPU acceleration (Display --> Advanced --> Troubleshoot), but that's not limited to video playback, and I'm not certain that's even possible anymore without completely disabling the driver.
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I'm sorry but core frequency = fps

Put a 6 core Vishera at 5ghz against a 8 core Vishera at 4.5ghz in most games and see what's faster.

Most games still don't scale beyond 6 threads, let alone 4.

And if you're getting an 8 core Vishera in 2016, that's just a joke. Get a locked Skylake i5 instead. It WILL get higher fps in pretty much every game.

Just take a look at this: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/1289

Plenty of others like it there. The FX isn't even on the list because it's a 2011 CPU and we're in 2016. But the AMD A10-7870K is, which is Steamroller, so the IPC is actually higher than Vishera (Piledriver).

Among all the game benchmarks there, the Skylake i5s and even the locked Haswell i5s and i3s are getting anywhere from 10 to 30 fps more than the AMD chips.

An 8 core Vishera HAS to be overclocked to be competitive, and to be overclocked it HAS to have a high end board with 8+2 phase VRM and it HAS to have high end cooling. You're looking at like a $500 investment for the chip, the board and the cooler if you're buying new ($200 chip, $200 board to run it and $100 for a good cooler, probably an AIO). For the same price you could get an unlocked i5, a $100 board and a $50 cooler and still save around $150 in the process. The unlocked i5 WILL give higher fps in nearly every game, especially overclocked.
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I usually re-install Windows after installing most new hardware...GPU, SSD, etc. Ram is basically the only new hardware I won't reinstall windows for.

Side note: Your CPU is really weak for a R9 390.
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