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Thanks for the replies! but man , im making an issue from nothing .. so i know you guys telling facts smile.gif but , cant i fix that throttle using ThrottleStop ?
post #12 of 44
I am not familiar with throttlestop but i am not sure it will work. More importantly, the system throttles down to protect itself from overheating. If you remove the throttling, the system will overheat you you will likely damage hardware.
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post #13 of 44
I have a laptop, no dust in it, no nothing.
Its a lenovo laptop and has a I5 in it

By defualt the cpu core temps are at 80-100C during gaming
If we imagine going any hotter by disabling throttling for more performance, the cpu could die
post #14 of 44
I have a few suggestions. First off, get some canned air and blow out any dust. Download gpu-z to monitor gpu temps and watch for temp limit value. 0=normal, 1= throttle. Download realtemp to monitor cpu temps and cpu-z to monitor clock speeds and voltage (which will drop when it throttles). This won't help your problem but it can help you determine if it is the cpu or gpu. The only things that can possible help would be a cooling pad. Or, possibly replacing the tim on the cpu, gpu or both. This requires disassembly of the laptop which is not advised unless you have experience.
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I have a few suggestions. First off, get some canned air and blow out any dust. Download gpu-z to monitor gpu temps and watch for temp limit value. 0=normal, 1= throttle. Download realtemp to monitor cpu temps and cpu-z to monitor clock speeds and voltage (which will drop when it throttles). This won't help your problem but it can help you determine if it is the cpu or gpu. The only things that can possible help would be a cooling pad. Or, possibly replacing the tim on the cpu, gpu or both. This requires disassembly of the laptop which is not advised unless you have experience.

Already advised on using GPU-Z. I don't think he wants to actually try. But let's try this-- It is MORE THAN LIKELY that your GPU is throttling back. CPU doesn't do a whole lot of work in gaming, but the GPU is going to be wide open until tmax.
Try getting a laptop cooling mat and see what happens and replacing the thermal paste on the cpu and gpu, as mystiksinner suggested.
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post #16 of 44
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disassembly of the laptop which is not advised unless you have experience.
I know how to take appart a desktop and do water cooling and all kinds of cool stuff with it.
But a laptop is diffrent, without professional exprience its likely that the laptop will die once opnend .
I killed a laptop like this.
Modifiying or reapply thermal paste on a laptop is way harder than modifying a desktop
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see what happens and replacing the thermal paste on the cpu and gpu, as mystiksinner suggested.
post #17 of 44
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Originally Posted by Iwamotto Tetsuz View Post

I know how to take appart a desktop and do water cooling and all kinds of cool stuff with it.
But a laptop is diffrent, without professional exprience its likely that the laptop will die once opnend .
I killed a laptop like this.
Modifiying or reapply thermal paste on a laptop is way harder than modifying a desktop

Sound's like you don't have much skill then. I've opened hundreds of laptops for cleaning/upgrades/TIM replacement, etc... from my tiny Asus UX31A ultrabook up to some full blow gaming DTR's. You just have to work slowly and pay attention, and have some precision screwdrivers and Torx bits available, and not go trying to torque everything down beyond a few lb/in. Oh, and blue locktite, a bottle of that.
I've never damaged a laptop from getting in and tinkering around.
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post #18 of 44
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man i dont want a cooling mat , weather is cold here and my temps are fine playing dota 2 , max cpu temp is 82 , max gpu is 67 .
I noticed that my gpu core clock is degrading when i start playing from 1.1k mhz to 800 mhz . Why is that ?
post #19 of 44
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My gpu max temp is 67 degree , its locked in bios by default . I think it is designed having this temp limit so that it wont affect cpu temps and cause cpu throttling ( The gpu is gt740M nvidia ). But , why my gpu is self throttling then ?
post #20 of 44
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and it is not a deep throttle , im going down from 1.1 mhz to 800mhz in the end of the game . If this is thermal throttling , i expect much slower core speed , like 500 - 400
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