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post #31 of 44
Cleaning is the easiest and safest thing you can do. And just overall good for your system. But it seems to be dismissed each time.

Thermal throttling is there for a reason.
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Yes . Its their for a reason but i dont want it tbh smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Sjdyq View Post

Yes . Its their for a reason but i dont want it tbh smile.gif

The ONLY possibke fix is to open your laptop and clean the heatsinks out, and replace the thermal paste.
If you aren't going to do this, then stop posting. This is getting rediculous. Several people now have told you what you need to do.
If you're unsure where to start, get on youtube and search for a teardown video of your laptop. It's not difficult to do, and you can have the whole process completed in less than an hour.
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Do what you want.
If you don't want to fix the actual problem, nobody here is going to help anymore.
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This issue is very weird , and it is an issue and not just normal throttling because :

My gpu clocks start at 1100 mhz , then it starts slowing down deeply with time , im reaching 700 mhz . This is a normal degradation of the clock speeds , and performance is not affected , game is still very smooth .
I start the game by a 60 fps , after some time ill play with a 50ish fps , then it drops to 48. The game is still smooth ;. BUT , what suddenly happen is the game fps will then drop to 30-40 fps all of a sudden , and not degrade slowly for example : 48 46 44 43 41 40 . NO! it just go from 50 to 37 ! BOOM

I checked my clocks when it does this , the clocks are suddenly to 500 - 400 mhz . If this thing is thermal throttling , we should expect that the gpu did this to lose some overheat , and it do it very well since when this drop happens , the gpu temp will go from the limit which is 67 , to 65 . But what bothers me is that it dont get the performance back again , it will stay in 500-400 mhz clock after it reduced the temps . What is expected is that the clocks should go back to normal again . My issue is that it do not get back again to the idle performance . I should alt tab and wait a bit , and then enter the game with " 1100mhz " clock , and then scenario will start again.

Why my gpu does not retain the idle clocks after it cooled off to a temp below the limit !?
post #37 of 44
I'll repeat what others have said, clean out the computer. I had a similar HP a few years back, & in about a year & a half, it got so bad that it would shut down after about an hour from heat issues. I opened it up & found a 1/4" thick buildup of dust on the back of the heat sink. At that point, no amount of canned air will help. You can try setting an ice pack under it & see if that helps, but I doubt it'll do much. If cleaning it & replacing thermal paste don't do the trick, your best bet is to replace it. If you need to stick with a laptop, make sure you buy one with separate vents for the CPU & GPU. Something like the Lenovo Y700 series or the ASUS G751 series will work well without costing too much more than your HP did. Anything with a singe side vent is going to have lower cooling capacity. Some of them may do well enough, but it's a less than ideal solution.
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post #38 of 44
@meangreenbean, I can understand his/ her reaction. You get a laptop and you game on it, hoping it will be OK based on some reviews, and you end up with a crappy gaming experience because your laptop wasn't meant for actual gaming at all.

I went through that, started to try gaming with my macbook pro I used to work, then a zenbook (God that was awful) and whatever I tried, I couldn't get anything good without lowering the game settings. So I spared money and ended up building a gaming pc.

OP, try what was advised ; I you don't it's up to you. Just don't expect any miracle.
And I really don't think removing the thermal throttling is a good idea: you're gonna fry your laptop. Just lower the settings to get an optimal gaming experience.
     
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post #39 of 44
@HZCH I have an ultrabook as well. Even playing Diablo 3 on low settings is a nightmare lol. I have a Zenbook UX31A.
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post #40 of 44
Someone just needs to close this thread. OP asks for help. OP gets it. OP ignores it.
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