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All hard disks are prone to fail. Illuminati confirmed.
Time to buy SSDs.
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post #42 of 88
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Originally Posted by akromatic View Post

But i do use a ups and quality psu. Point isnt clean power but the inherent flaws of ssd technology and crappy designs + manufacturing. Poor quality control on the soldering etc.

Hdd are made with tighter tolerences then ssd being pieced together like other cheap consumer electronics

meanwhile my Kingston 240GB SSDNOW V300 is nearly 4 years old and running nicely on my win 7 64bit 2010 april build. it literally made my q9550@3.4ghz immortal, though i do play only eve online since i played gta v and payday 2 a lot
post #43 of 88
Well, I wasn't surprised when Western Digital bought Sandisk. HDD are going to be replaced by SSDs more and more now that they are large enough for most people and not nearly as expensive as they used to be. They are much faster, less likely to fail, are smaller and lighter than HDD (perfect for laptops), and require less energy to use. The big HDD manufacturers, Western Digital and Seagate, have been the dominant forces in the storage industry, but this upcoming change in technology gives other players a chance to get into the market and establish themselves if WD and Seagate don't change with the times. I wouldn't doubt that Seagate ends up buying some prominent SSD manufacturer like WD did.
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Originally Posted by ./Cy4n1d3\. View Post

Well, I wasn't surprised when Western Digital bought Sandisk. HDD are going to be replaced by SSDs more and more now that they are large enough for most people and not nearly as expensive as they used to be. They are much faster, less likely to fail, are smaller and lighter than HDD (perfect for laptops), and require less energy to use. The big HDD manufacturers, Western Digital and Seagate, have been the dominant forces in the storage industry, but this upcoming change in technology gives other players a chance to get into the market and establish themselves if WD and Seagate don't change with the times. I wouldn't doubt that Seagate ends up buying some prominent SSD manufacturer like WD did.

6TB HD's are cheaper than a 2TB SSD. Until SSD's come down to HD prices HD's will continue to be used and will have a place in systems. I definitely will not replace all my HD's with SSD's as I have other priorities.


Edited by Liranan - 1/31/16 at 12:22am
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post #45 of 88
Had 3 Seagate drives in the last 5 years, all of them failed.

Will never buy Seagate ever again. Would not install a Seagate drive in my system unless it was free and I was paid to. And even then I might not.

Garbage company.

It's WD or nothing for me now.
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post #46 of 88
I would still be going for dual solution (having both hdd and ssd at the same time), wonder about people complain reliability when both has similar issue I suppose. I miss Maxtor though, that drive stay pretty strong (use it for about 12 years before put in on shelve as it is too small), and frankly Seagate has not been a reliable disk name since quite long I think (recalling that time when I cheaped out on seagate, and in the end have to replace it with Maxtor). I think maybe conventional hdd will have SSP (Solid State Platter) as a new technology (it's the head that rotate now, not the platter biggrin.gif).
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post #47 of 88
I don't know, got 2 Seagate HDD of 500GB each, still up and running from 2005 without problem. They both saw 3 different pcs, 4 different Windows installations (+ disk formattation), i don't know how many Gigs of films, videogames, downloads, photos and whatever.

They're still in my computer, and they are fine. My only complain with them is their size, because they're always near full... Just lucky, or what?

Living in Italy temps are also similar to California, hotter than the majority of Europe or USA/Canada, so HDDs should be more prone to failure, but they're still there, working.

My father always bought Seagates too, (mostly because they're cheaper and because the Barracudas work at 7200 RPM, without the need to pay a premium on a WD black just because the green/blue version works at 5400RPM or similar), and he's a "serial downloader". Only one HDD really failed hard, the rest worked well and met the shelf only because of their limited size after years of use.

I don't think they're this bad, seriously...
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post #48 of 88
I've had a WD black (WD6401AALS) for 7 years

when will it break? it has all my music on it lol.
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6TB HD's are cheaper than a 2TB SSD. Until SSD's come down to HD prices HD's will continue to be used and will have a place in systems. I definitely will not replace all my HD's with SSD's as I have other priorities.

But sooo... many people don't need that much space. Me? Yes, I need terabytes of storage. My sister, and a lot of people I know, would probably be fine with a 250 or 500 gb SSD or HDD. Those drives are CHEAP ENOUGH. Having all that space at the lowest $/gb cost isn't the only requirement. Kinda like cars, where you can get a vehicle with LOTS of interior space for a low $/ cubic foot of space, but some people are willing to trade a smaller vehicle with ENOUGH SPACE instead of AMPLE SPACE if the vehicle has other benefits, like being a sports car.

Oh, and I know so many data centers would love the energy savings that you can get with an SSD versus a traditional HDD. There are benefits and costs to each choice, and some people aren't going to make the same decision you are going to.

Also, I didn't say that ALL hard drives would be replaced by SSDs. I just meant more SSD would get picked because it is more affordable now than it used to be, at the cost of SOME hard drives not getting picked. It's a gradual thing. If advances keep up on the SSD end, and HDD can't also do the same thing at the same rate, then more and more HDD will get replaced by SSD. I would think in 10-15 years SSD will probably dominate the market.
Edited by ./Cy4n1d3\. - 1/31/16 at 1:43am
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Guess its time for another flood eh boys? rolleyes.gif

Yes. Seagate/WD themselves manifested that flood. rolleyes.gif

Also, factory items usually cost around a penny or two and they are in business purely for charity.
Edited by MadRabbit - 1/31/16 at 3:15am
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