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If you want to spend you time moaning on forums about the problems with everything... then that's fine.... If you want to buy the best all round monitor currently available... then buy an Acer X34 and there you go..
Edited by Nicholars - 2/3/16 at 7:49am
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If you want to go through 5 pieces to get a decent one and have cash to burn.

This applies to 90% of monitors. LCD is not perfect, deal with it and enjoy it for what it is, or wait 3-5 years for OLED.
post #33 of 47
Yeah nearly all monitors come with a lottery attached. Plus, people always come to forums like this to complain about problems.

I'd say the QC issues on the X34 are overblown also - if you look on Newegg, the X34 has a higher avg customer review than the PG279Q, for example. It seems like majority don't have problems - I highly doubt you'd have to go through 5 units to get a good one, that's definitely not the norm.
Edited by x3sphere - 2/3/16 at 8:01am
post #34 of 47
I was sarcastic.... (note to self, use the [/sarcasm] tag)

But IMO, the X34 isn't worth 1300. It's worth 1000 tops. Saying that there is nothing better does not mean the product is good.

That's why I strongly advice to wait, unless you can make big compromises in both monitor's performance and your wallet.
   
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I was sarcastic.... (note to self, use the [/sarcasm] tag)

But IMO, the X34 isn't worth 1300. It's worth 1000 tops. Saying that there is nothing better does not mean the product is good.

That's why I strongly advice to wait, unless you can make big compromises in both monitor's performance and your wallet.

Strongly advise to wait for what? There isn't anything in the next 6-12 months coming out... .

"just because there is nothing better does not mean this product is good"

How did you work that out? If there is nothing better available, then it is by very definition "the best" or "good".
Edited by Nicholars - 2/3/16 at 10:19am
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Originally Posted by xioros View Post

I was sarcastic.... (note to self, use the [/sarcasm] tag)

But IMO, the X34 isn't worth 1300. It's worth 1000 tops. Saying that there is nothing better does not mean the product is good.

That's why I strongly advice to wait, unless you can make big compromises in both monitor's performance and your wallet.

Strongly advise to wait for what? There isn't anything in the next 6-12 months coming out... Except the Asus version of the X34 which is basically the same panel and same Gsync in a different case which will likely be basically the same, have fun waiting for this unannounced monitor lol.

"just because there is nothing better does not mean this product is good"

How did you work that out? Obviously an OLED 500hz monitor will be better, but it doesn't exist and will not exist or be affordable for a long time... IF there is nothing better available, then it is by very definition "the best" or "good".

Anyway as I said have fun sitting on this forum complaining and waiting for this elusive perfect monitor.

Don't forget to report back when you are an old man with a walking stick and a beard... still on your current monitor.... waiting for this 500hz Gsync OLED 36" 3440x1440 perfect monitor!!!

Then we disagree. OLED was miles out a couple of years ago. The release of that Dell OLED monitor proves the technology is starting to reach consumer market (or at least prosumer for now). Do I need to remind you how fast the consumer adaptation of tech is once it gets out of the enterprise market? If this OLED monitor wasn't released, I could somewhat agree with you. But blowing 1300 USD on a monitor that has major compromises, seems foolish to me. That's my opinion (I'll start underlining for you). And that's what I've been saying all along. I think that if you're blowing over a grand on a display, you should expect more than what the X34 has to offer. Do you want to buy it? Be my guest. But I'm not sure it's wise to advice people to buy that product.

As for the argument of "IF there is nothing better available, then it is by very definition "the best" or "good"", that is flat out stupid. Something can be the best and still be crap just because everything else is even worse. The fact that it's "the best" does not make it's worth it's money. That reasoning is the main cause of the huge GPU prices ("AMD can't compete in the high-end segment? That makes Nvidia good, no matter the price!"), all the crap that Nvidia has been pulling with GameWorks, the reason for the terrible DLC-fested games etc. Because people like you think: "There is noting better, therefore this product is good and worth its money)

Also take note how he runs a single GTX 970. That won't even be close to enough for 3440x1440 @ 100Hz. He could push 60 FPS if he turns down quite a bit of settings. He would need at least a GTX 980 Ti and ideally even more that (980 Ti SLI would be ideal probably). And you'll probably say "Yes, but he can upgrade his GPUs later", then he can also wait with buying a monitor he probably can't drive properly right now.

An other thing I even overlooked from his first post: if you're sitting far away from your monitor (like in your bed), you might want to consider non-curved or even 2560x1080. The latter one is drivable with a GTX 970.

DISCLAIMER (because some readers require it): This is my opinion and I'm stating WHY I disagree with yours.
   
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post #37 of 47
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Interesting
I am currently hesitating with these 3 models

- XB271HU, 27 inches, 1440p, IPS, 200 hertz

- X34, 34 inches, 3440*1440, IPS, up 100 hertz

- Z35, 35 inches, 2560*1080p, VA, up to 200 hertz


On the paper, Z35 wins overall but pitch/va panel are downsides

I want bigger monitor than 24 especially for watching movies from bed which stands lower than desktop, so i need good vertical viewing angle
I am also targeting sim racing with wheel stand, 27 is the least size i could handle for such game (i prefer playing sim racing with tv size screen)
My favorite games are either fps or sim-racing
I am just wondering if Z35 is fast enough for fast fps and sim-racing without bothering me (i play these games since years on TN 120/144 hertz)
I also told you i have 970, i might upgrade for the next GPU (Pascal?) if needed, for now, i dont think so i would buy better graphic card
What would be the best monitor for my case?
I dont want the best monitor at all, just for me and my needs lol
Edited by ajx - 2/3/16 at 10:38am
post #38 of 47
All I can say about OLED is... HAVE FUN WAITING FOR THAT. It will be a good 3 years before we see a 3440x1440 100+HZ OLED available below £1000, GOOD LUCK with you OLED purchase in the next 3 years, is all I can say....
Edited by Nicholars - 2/3/16 at 10:42am
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Interesting
I am currently hesitating with these 3 models

- XB271HU, 27 inches, 1440p, IPS, 200 hertz

- X34, 34 inches, 3440*1440, IPS, up 100 hertz

- Z35, 35 inches, 2560*1080p, VA, up to 200 hertz


On the paper, Z35 wins overall but pitch/va panel are downsides

I want bigger monitor than 24 especially for watching movies from bed which stands lower than desktop, so i need good vertical viewing angle
I am also targeting sim racing with wheel stand, 27 is the least size i could handle for such game (i prefer playing sim racing with tv size screen)
My favorite games are either fps or sim-racing
I am just wondering if Z35 is fast enough for fast fps and sim-racing without bothering me (i play these games since years on TN 120/144 hertz)

On paper yes the Z35 looks good, the reality is that in actual use it will look bad, it has bad viewing angles, bad gamma shift, bad response times, really bad resolution for 35", the curve is too curved etc etc. Unless you have very low standards you will not like it.
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Then we disagree. OLED was miles out a couple of years ago. The release of that Dell OLED monitor proves the technology is starting to reach consumer market (or at least prosumer for now). Do I need to remind you how fast the consumer adaptation of tech is once it gets out of the enterprise market? If this OLED monitor wasn't released, I could somewhat agree with you. But blowing 1300 USD on a monitor that has major compromises, seems foolish to me. That's my opinion (I'll start underlining for you). And that's what I've been saying all along. I think that if you're blowing over a grand on a display, you should expect more than what the X34 has to offer. Do you want to buy it? Be my guest. But I'm not sure it's wise to advice people to buy that product. .

I'm very optimistic that affordable OLED isn't that far off - maybe another two years - but it's probably going to be a longer wait for all the bells and whistles people want in a complete package (G-Sync, ultrawide, high refresh). Chances are the first wave of OLED displays, like the Dell, won't have G-Sync and they will be 16:9 only.
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