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The video is from july, barely after its release without overvolting or HBM overclocking. The review posted here has Fury 20% faster in 3 games out of 7 at 1440p. Just let it rest.

Unfortunately the "overvolting" and "HBM overclocking" has been detailed already:



So really, give it a rest.
post #102 of 179
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Unfortunately the "overvolting" and "HBM overclocking" has been detailed already:


...


So really, give it a rest.

Not sure what your conversation is about, but just for clarity, this thread is about the fury. We all know that the stock VRM design on the Fury X is pretty pathetic. Hence why this Fury has a custom VRM design.

edit: also friendly reminder that the fury and fury x have/had a (driver) issue with really getting much from their shaders in some cases, so if anything, it's essential to evaluate the product with latest drivers. Or really just wait it out, anyhow.
Edited by Tivan - 2/3/16 at 2:35am
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post #103 of 179
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Not sure what your conversation is about, but just for clarity, this thread is about the fury. We all know that the stock VRM design on the Fury X is pretty pathetic. Hence why this Fury has a custom VRM design.

So are you suggesting that the Fury is getting mind-blowing overclocks?
post #104 of 179
I'm not going to watch his video again just because you seem to love them so much. You posted it earlier as well and it got around 10-12% performance increase from what I remember, so no an overclocked 980 wouldn't match the Fury in a newer video. He didn't even overclock the HBM either iirc, despite hardware.fr showing good improvements with memory overclocking.

As I said, give it a rest.
    
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post #105 of 179
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So are you suggesting that the Fury is getting mind-blowing overclocks?

Totally. Or not. Why ask me something I made no point about? edit: I mean it should be clear that I raised the possibility, not made a claim?

If you want to argue with me and 'win' by figuring out that I have no supporting evidence for such a claim, I can't help you. Since I never made such a claim. My argument runs on a different axis.

That aside, I wish you guys good luck figuring out how the thing performs at the very moment, though I'm personally going to wait for more driver updates, as I have no interest in purchasing one anytime soon.
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post #106 of 179
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I'm not going to watch his video again just because you seem to love them so much. You posted it earlier as well and it got around 10-12% performance increase from what I remember, so no an overclocked 980 wouldn't match the Fury in a newer video. He didn't even overclock the HBM either iirc, despite hardware.fr showing good improvements with memory overclocking.

As I said, give it a rest.

So you are saying he didn't overclock the HBM, but you are also saying you watched the video? See anything wrong with this? Then you say he gained 10-12% performance increase with unlocking the voltage even though it was only 2.7% after unlocked voltage and overclocking HBM.

So no, you give it a rest.
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Totally. Or not. Why ask me something I made no point about? edit: I mean it should be clear that I raised the possibility, not made a claim?

If you want to argue with me and 'win' by figuring out that I have no supporting evidence for such a claim, I can't help you. Since I never made such a claim. My argument runs on a different axis.

The reasoning behind posting that was to show that even with unlocked voltage and overclocking HBM the Fury and Fury X still don't have much headroom.
post #107 of 179
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The reasoning behind posting that was to show that even with unlocked voltage and overclocking HBM the Fury and Fury X still don't have much headroom.

Ah, I didn't realize we're arguing about offtopic now. Let's stick to the Fury! I agree with you that we totally should give that a rest, the Fury X is known to not have the greatest VRM design.
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post #108 of 179
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So you are saying he didn't overclock the HBM, but you are also saying you watched the video? See anything wrong with this? Then you say he gained 10-12% performance increase with unlocking the voltage even though it was only 2.7% after unlocked voltage and overclocking HBM.

Yeah I see what's wrong with what you wrote.

I watched the video earlier when you posted it here. I had then expressed my displeasure about having to view videos for this stuff when simple graphs would do like the major tech sites and from what I remember the fury x got 10-12% improvement on the whole, whether overvolting was a major or minor portion of it is irrelevant and if I remember correctly, he didn't even overclock HBM saying that it wouldn't matter much.

Except it does.

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/937-26/overclocking-gpu-fiji.html
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Not sure what your conversation is about, but just for clarity, this thread is about the fury. We all know that the stock VRM design on the Fury X is pretty pathetic. Hence why this Fury has a custom VRM design.

edit: also friendly reminder that the fury and fury x have/had a (driver) issue with really getting much from their shaders in some cases, so if anything, it's essential to evaluate the product with latest drivers. Or really just wait it out, anyhow.

The 'conversation' started with BS taking offence at someone claiming that this Fury card was up there with 980Ti. Now it seems to be whether it's even up there against 980 once you include the glorious maxwell overclocking vs. peasant like(if it even exists) Fiji overclocking. See the video!! the video!!! tongue.gif
    
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post #109 of 179
People should do stock (or near stock) and OCed benches separately.

And redo them with new patches and driver updates at 1080, 1440 and 4K.

*Some people can turn down and up settings at 4K to get 60 fps, truth is we have the power for that much already.

As it is I am left with the impression that the Fury Non X is a great buy. Not so much the X... but the Non X . Especially at 1440 and 4K
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post #110 of 179
Yeah, 980Ti is a no brainer compared to Fury X especially on this forum, but Fury is a quite competitive with 980 and has been so from the start.

A grip on reality would be better as well, I had some folks telling me that 980 would jump 30% over stock to catch up with Fury at its release. rolleyes.gif
    
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