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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Lol, found the 980Ti owner!

In all seriousness, the Fury doesn't compete with the 980Ti, which costs 30% more, yet matches it at 4K stock for stock. That's pretty good value. And anybody buying a 980Ti for 1080p is just doing it wrong. Period.

You found someone who have tried 980 Ti and two different Fury X's (first one had massive pump whine, got a replacement). The choice in the end, was easy. The Fiji chip is nowhere near GM200 when both are fully overclocked. As all benchmarks clearly shows. Coil whine is also a problem on Fury X (and NANO). Both my cards had ALOT of coil whine. Even review-samples got it:

"During gaming, I've noticed some coil noise coming from the card, dependent on the framerate. It's not as bad as with the HD 7990, but isn't unnoticeable either."
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Fury_X/30.html

"What is extremely annoying, though, is the massive amount of coil noise AMD's review sample emits—no matter the FPS, you can always hear it chirping."
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Nano/29.html



980 Ti is fine for 1080p when using a 144 Hz monitor, if people want to max games with high fps. But I look at 1440p results mostly these days.
It's funny how people always mention the "4K" performance, when the avg fps is around 25-30 on these cards in demanding games on high settings (not max), meaning minimum fps will be 15-20 at times.

The jump from 1440p all maxed, to 2160p low/medium-ish settings simply isn't worth it. 1440p maxed looks way better.



The Fury X's I've tried maxed out at 1090 and 1100, artifacting at higher speeds.

980 Ti overclocks/scales much better. I got more than 35% performance improvement compared to 980 Ti reference on my custom card. Out of the box a custom 980 Ti is ~20% faster than reference, beating a fully overclocked Fury X with ease.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Ti_Lightning/23.html





Fury X gained 5.1% performance compared to stock.

980 Ti gained 36% performance compared to stock/reference.


Besides, Nvidia got drivers ready on release day, not days/weeks/months after. Something I think AMD should look into. Most gamers want the best possible performance on day one, not after they have completed the game.
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That is impossible as most games are unplayable and rife with bugs and other, more severe issues on day one.
These days it is better to wait. Much better. To wait and play older, often better games/mods.

As for 4K performance that too gets better in time. And not everything must be on high either. A mixture of Low-Ultra High on things that matter can produce great results coupled with the higher resolution.
Some things hit performance hard but do not improve image quality by much. Others do not hit it as hard (for example, texture quality) but improve the game dramatically. That is why I believe we are all in all already capable of good 4K gaming on all not broken or at least fixed games.
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That is impossible as most games are unplayable and rife with bugs and other, more severe issues on day one.
These days it is better to wait. Much better. To wait and play older, often better games/mods.

As for 4K performance that too gets better in time. And not everything must be on high either. A mixture of Low-Ultra High on things that matter can produce great results coupled with the higher resolution.
Some things hit performance hard but do not improve image quality by much. Others do not hit it as hard (for example, texture quality) but improve the game dramatically. That is why I believe we are all in all already capable of good 4K gaming on all not broken or at least fixed games.

We're getting closer to that one card for 4k, but in the interim, there is always xfire/sli.
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So sad.
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Originally Posted by keikei View Post

We're getting closer to that one card for 4k, but in the interim, there is always xfire/sli.

You can already play at 4K quite easily. Just don't turn all the sliders to the max and beyond.

Higher IQ settings have a very steep rule of diminishing returns 99.99% of the time.
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You found someone who have tried 980 Ti and two different Fury X's (first one had massive pump whine, got a replacement). The choice in the end, was easy. The Fiji chip is nowhere near GM200 when both are fully overclocked. As all benchmarks clearly shows. Coil whine is also a problem on Fury X (and NANO). Both my cards had ALOT of coil whine. Even review-samples got it:

"During gaming, I've noticed some coil noise coming from the card, dependent on the framerate. It's not as bad as with the HD 7990, but isn't unnoticeable either."
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Fury_X/30.html

"What is extremely annoying, though, is the massive amount of coil noise AMD's review sample emits—no matter the FPS, you can always hear it chirping."
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Nano/29.html



980 Ti is fine for 1080p when using a 144 Hz monitor, if people want to max games with high fps. But I look at 1440p results mostly these days.
It's funny how people always mention the "4K" performance, when the avg fps is around 25-30 on these cards in demanding games on high settings (not max), meaning minimum fps will be 15-20 at times.

The jump from 1440p all maxed, to 2160p low/medium-ish settings simply isn't worth it. 1440p maxed looks way better.



The Fury X's I've tried maxed out at 1090 and 1100, artifacting at higher speeds.

980 Ti overclocks/scales much better. I got more than 35% performance improvement compared to 980 Ti reference on my custom card. Out of the box a custom 980 Ti is ~20% faster than reference, beating a fully overclocked Fury X with ease.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Ti_Lightning/23.html





Fury X gained 5.1% performance compared to stock.

980 Ti gained 36% performance compared to stock/reference.


Besides, Nvidia got drivers ready on release day, not days/weeks/months after. Something I think AMD should look into. Most gamers want the best possible performance on day one, not after they have completed the game.
First, your experience overclocking Fury X is singularly terrible. Feel free to come to the owner's thread and peruse the results from other owners that go much higher than that.
Secondly, your comparisons show that a Fury X competes with a Titan and a 980Ti; when you move to custom products like the $750 Lightning, you're shifting the goal posts quite a ways.
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We're getting closer to that one card for 4k, but in the interim, there is always xfire/sli.

My point is, we are already there with single cards smile.gif
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First, your experience overclocking Fury X is singularly terrible. Feel free to come to the owner's thread and peruse the results from other owners that go much higher than that.
Secondly, your comparisons show that a Fury X competes with a Titan and a 980Ti; when you move to custom products like the $750 Lightning, you're shifting the goal posts quite a ways.

Alot of Fury X reviews shows the same OC potential or slightly more. TPU's 100 MHz OC resultet in 5% performance. Unlocked voltage didnt change a thing. I'm talking about 24/7, rock solid overclocks here. I can also find 980 Ti's doing 1600+ But I'm not.

Most people that buy 980 Ti, will be buying custom cards, and they are 15-20% faster than reference, out of the box.

Fury X is 650$.

There are many custom 980 Ti's for 630-650 $, including Rise of the Tomb Raider.
Cards like MSI Gaming, EVGA ACX 2.0 SC, Gigabyte G1, Zotac AMP! etc. They will overclock just as well as the Lightning; 1500+

I would gladly pay 80$ more for 980 Ti (and get a free AAA game, which you can easily sell if you don't want it). It's much better value.

Custom Fury needs to be priced at 499 like the NANO.
Edited by Lass3 - 2/3/16 at 6:24am
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Max Overclock vs. Max Overclock
And...? That's a 7 months old video. The slides i posted are from a review done by Techpowerup on January 22 and the review of this thread is from January 29. rolleyes.gif

Literally the Fury X was launched on June 24 and that video is from July 15. Not even one month maturity driver wise and you're using it as if it even holds any value anymore after 7 months. rolleyes.gif
Edited by GoLDii3 - 2/3/16 at 6:37am
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Alot of Fury X reviews shows the same OC potential or slightly more. TPU's 100 MHz OC resultet in 5% performance. Unlocked voltage didnt change a thing. I'm talking about 24/7, rock solid overclocks here. I can also find 980 Ti's doing 1600+ But I'm not.

Most people that buy 980 Ti, will be buying custom cards, and they are 15-20% faster than reference, out of the box.

Fury X is 650$.

There are many custom 980 Ti's for 630-650 $, including Rise of the Tomb Raider.
Cards like MSI Gaming, EVGA ACX 2.0 SC, Gigabyte G1, Zotac AMP! etc. They will overclock just as well as the Lightning; 1500+

I would gladly pay 80$ more for 980 Ti (and get a free AAA game, which you can easily sell if you don't want it). It's much better value.

Custom Fury needs to be priced at 499 like the NANO.
Assertions and opinions, none of which change the fact that out of the box, Fury/Fury X provide competition to the Titan and 980Ti.
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