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Originally Posted by BiG StroOnZ View Post

But that chart has a Tri X overclocked with mostly every other card at stock, including the 980. Don't you see how that is not overclocked vs overclocked results?

I never asked for OC vs OC results personally. Not until AMD fix their scaling issues with more shaders between fury and furyX, and I actually care to buy a card for more than 250euros anyway. (or more realisticially, till these cards are in the pricerange.)

It's a nice chart though!

edit: also, I care more about minmaxing FPS with decent visual quality, so there's a need for high settings charts (which some people fortunately make). There's been very interesting results at lower than max settings for AMD, in some games.
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Any review site that compares non reference from one company vs reference from the other needs to go on the ignore never to visit again list

Trouble is most of them do it and they do it to both Nvidia/AMD but its really a joke

There should be three tests - reference vs reference, non ref vs non ref and max oc vs max oc , end of story
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Any review site that compares non reference from one company vs reference from the other needs to go on the ignore never to visit again list

Trouble is most of them do it and they do it to both Nvidia/AMD but its really a joke

There should be three tests - reference vs reference, non ref vs non ref and max oc vs max oc , end of story

sounds nice in theory, but some cards don't really have a "reference" design or reference clock speed anymore. case in point the titular card, the R9 Fury. even the two Sapphire cards are different.
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Not for nothing but the "overclock" on the tested card could hardly be considered a serious factor when looking at the charts. 1050Mhz for a whopping +50Mhz OC, memory clock at stock. Yeah, better disregard the performance entirely. How does it in any way invalidate the point that the Fury is a great value versus the 980, and even the 980ti? Add an actual, significant OC to the Fury, and you're looking at exactly what people have been saying: the Fury is an excellent value at a 980 price point offering performance between the 980 and the 980ti.

 

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-sapphire-radeon-r9-fury-nitro-tri-x-ocplus-28nm-pcie-30-(x16)-1000mhz-hbm-1050mhz-gpu-3584-strea

 

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-evga-gtx-980-sc-gaming-acx-20-pcie-30-7010mhz-gddr5-gpu-1266mhz-boost-1367mhz-cores-2048-3x-dp-h

 

£10 difference, and the Fury scales better with resolution from every review and head-to-head I've seen. How is it not a great value? How is it not a good card?

     
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The reviews show this running pretty cool! You think they could've gone with a dual fan solution having its cooler flush with the PCB?
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Me did you read it all. Here is news for you. The
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SAPPHIRE NITRO Radeon R9 Fury 100379NTOC+SR 4GB 4096-Bit HBM TRI-X OC+ (UEFI) Video Card

Core Clock
1050 MHz
Nitro Sapphire Radeon R9 Fury Nitro Specification. Do you know what the word Specification mean?

1050 is the stock speed. Here they overclocked it to it's max. Maybe you should stop and actually read the review?
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Here's the predicament facing partners building AMD-based cards. The stock frequencies are quite close to the maximum, so Sapphire has to judge just how high it can go without compromising yields. 1,050MHz core, as specified on this model, is sensible given that we topped out at 1,135MHz when the card was set to the performance BIOS mode. The memory overclocks, too, and another 10 per cent on the HBM front can't do any harm.
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/90086-sapphire-radeon-r9-fury-nitro/?page=12
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Not for nothing but the "overclock" on the tested card could hardly be considered a serious factor when looking at the charts. 1050Mhz for a whopping +50Mhz OC, memory clock at stock. Yeah, better disregard the performance entirely. How does it in any way invalidate the point that the Fury is a great value versus the 980, and even the 980ti? Add an actual, significant OC to the Fury, and you're looking at exactly what people have been saying: the Fury is an excellent value at a 980 price point offering performance between the 980 and the 980ti.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-sapphire-radeon-r9-fury-nitro-tri-x-ocplus-28nm-pcie-30-(x16)-1000mhz-hbm-1050mhz-gpu-3584-strea

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-evga-gtx-980-sc-gaming-acx-20-pcie-30-7010mhz-gddr5-gpu-1266mhz-boost-1367mhz-cores-2048-3x-dp-h

£10 difference, and the Fury scales better with resolution from every review and head-to-head I've seen. How is it not a great value? How is it not a good card?

I totally agree but some people (like Big StroOnZ) simply will not accept that on any level. He is convinced that max OC performance at 1080p is the ONLY performance that matters and that any other advantages that an AMD card may have against the precious 980 or 980Ti should be disregarded out of hand because HE doesn't care about those results...
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Me did you read it all. Here is news for you. The
Nitro Sapphire Radeon R9 Fury Nitro Specification. Do you know what the word Specification mean?

1050 is the stock speed. Here they overclocked it to it's max. Maybe you should stop and actually read the review?
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/90086-sapphire-radeon-r9-fury-nitro/?page=12

Pages 2-11 are a bunch of benchmarks and graphs done at stock specification. Those are what I am referring to and what is relevant here. The single page of overclocked Firestrike results isn't cogent to the points I made.

     
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Guys, what are we fighting about? As a 980 owner, i still think the 980 got his ass handed to him. But what else were we expecting? I would of been more disappointed if amd released the fury and the 1 year old card still beat it.

But lets not forget the real loser in this which is me that bought my 980 for 550!!! 2 months before the ti came out. AND that has its voltage locked and cant hit 1500 stable. Yes, i want everyone to laugh at me.
    
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Not for nothing but the "overclock" on the tested card could hardly be considered a serious factor when looking at the charts. 1050Mhz for a whopping +50Mhz OC, memory clock at stock. Yeah, better disregard the performance entirely.


Really? YOu claim here it's a 50 Mhz Overclock @ 1050Mhz. When in fact the overclocked core was 1135, or a total of 85mhz. The point you made is clearly in your post above, can't deny that. It's carved in stone. That's the point I was making. You were misinformed.

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Pages 2-11 are a bunch of benchmarks and graphs done at stock specification. Those are what I am referring to and what is relevant here. The single page of overclocked Firestrike results isn't cogent to the points I made.
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