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Has anyone seen this? It got released in October of 2015.

Link:
http://www.idcooling.com/Product/detail/id/59/name/HUNTER%20VC-TWIN

Some images:







They are very nice on paper.

Their unique feature is that the bottom is a vapor chamber and that is one thing that is unique about this design, unlike other dual towers


Skip to about 1:40. They aren't the only vapor chamber base ever made, but I think there aren't any dual towers with vapor chamber bases.


Closer look at the bottom of the FI-VC Twin, which I think is the same cooler, only without the black coating (Click to show)

  • Appears to be basically a dual tower version of the FI REEX Deluxe
  • LIke Noctua on the D15 and Cryorig, they appear to have soldered their heatsinks to the fins (important for heat conduction)
  • 5x 8mm heatpipes, but remember that this is a vapor chamber design, so it's a bit unique in that regard
  • Mass appears comparable to the D15 (so probably similar fin density)
  • Hong Hua fans (probably FDB bearing)

The only thing that I see is missing is something to prevent air from going out of the sides (ex: the Cryorig has a shroud and the sides are sealed on the Noctua).

Anyone seen any reviews? If the vapor chamber is any good, this could outperform a D15 or an R1 Ultimate. If it looks as good as it performs, then it's awesome. thumb.gif
Edited by CrazyElf - 1/30/16 at 9:55pm
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post #2 of 24
just based on pure guessing, i would say this cooler will not perform any better then the top coolers on the market atm.

while the idea is nice, the physics behind it doesn't really add up. soldering heatpipes into a vapor chamber actually decreases the effectiveness of the vapor chamber itself since the liquid has alot more room to drain to (if mounted in a traditional tower case orientation.) i don't think a soldered heatpipe on a solid copper base will perform any worse even under perfect conditions for the vapor chamber *mounted on desktop orientation where all of the liquid drains back down to the vapor chamber rather then tower orientation where some liquid will drain into the pipes rather then the vapor chamber. )

i could be wrong, but that's just my feeling on how it would work given the physics behind it. a vapor chamber is not "significantly better" then a good sintered heatpipe in terms of cooling since they both use the same principle to carry the heat away from the source.
post #3 of 24
What psyclum said. As you said, looks like as FI-VC TWIN been out for sometime in the far east.

I have the Fi REEX Deluxe and like it, but haven't played with it as much as I need to. The fans are a little on the loud side. Not surprising considering the are 1600rpm and I normally find noise levels below 1100-1200rpm to be preferable. Obviously the original colors are not .. well you know. tongue.gif

This Hunter VC Twin is much nicer looking. interestingly the single tower FI-REEX Deluxe (weird name) is rated 300w but FI-VC Twin is rated 200w. I'm not sure what wattage I've pushed at mine (i7 920 @ 4.2GHz) but it had no problems handling it. Fans were at 1400rpm with 45c delta (cooler intake was 23c). My only complaint was color. biggrin.gif

If you are considering getting one, you might be better served with the Hunter VC 3D. It appears to be black/red version of FI-REEX Deluxe. thumb.gif

I also have the SE-214 and was impressed with it too. Not a big power cooler, but a nice mid-level cooler. thumb.gif
Edited by doyll - 1/31/16 at 4:17am
post #4 of 24
I like the looks of the heatsink though. All matte black, any day any time.
post #5 of 24
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Originally Posted by geggeg View Post

I like the looks of the heatsink though. All matte black, any day any time.

That was what I thought, as well. Which is kind of sad since CM is the only other company doing the vapor chamber thing.....which is most likely due to the fact that it doesn't work very well.
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That was what I thought, as well. Which is kind of sad since CM is the only other company doing the vapor chamber thing.....which is most likely due to the fact that it doesn't work very well.

You've played more with vapor chamber coolers than me so I would love to know- what kind of a performance hit are we talking about here? I understand why it is happening, but assuming the CPU die-IHS bottleneck is not a concern would this be within 10% of something like a Cryorig R1 Ultimate?
post #7 of 24
we have it here in our country, around $80 converted. haven't tested it though due to lack of extra cash but i am interested in buying one.
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post #8 of 24
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You've played more with vapor chamber coolers than me so I would love to know- what kind of a performance hit are we talking about here? I understand why it is happening, but assuming the CPU die-IHS bottleneck is not a concern would this be within 10% of something like a Cryorig R1 Ultimate?
Within 10% yeah, but not up to 10 % better. Like I said above, I have it's 300w rated sibling, the Fi-REEX Deluxe (same as Hunter VC 3D) and it performs same as other top coolers. No better, no worse. Considering they rate the FI REEX Dexluxe/Hunter VC 3D single towers at 300 watt and the twin towers at 200 watt, my money would be on the single tower models.



Sngle tower is smaller with 2x fans, cools better, is stronger structure, etc.
post #9 of 24
lol 300W rating, I wonder what the testing conditions were. Most heat dissipation ratings from companies are either using the Intel TTV (Thermal Test Vehicle) or produced from their backsides, I've seen.
post #10 of 24
Gpu often use vapor chamber, but those cooler never beat after market cooler(mk26, morpheus) with soldered heatpipes.

Vapor chamber may be better, but it is insigicant compare to thing like fin area and good fans.
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