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I just followed the directions exactly like I should have, and now my Intellimouse does not work on that USB port. What could I be doing wrong? I am supposed to use the hidusbf.sys from the AMD64 folder since I have a 64bit OS correct?
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Just tried it on my WMO and I get the same results. It doesn't work and it makes the mouse not work on that specific port.
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Is it possible to wear out the mouse or the hub if i overclock it to lets say 2000hz? And would there be an actual gain from it?
Nah they don't "wear out". They are doing stuff at those timings anyways; only the type of work changes, not the amount, if you will. There would be an actual gain, but also potential drawbacks.
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Yea I just tried, didn't work, reverted. Oh well. Will it ever work? or is it something that cant be changed?

Thanks
Last I read qsx said it's likely because Logitech has their mice internally operate in 1ms integers for whatever reason. So the buffer is only written to each 1ms and thus stuff can only be transferred each 1ms also. Maybe if you hack the mouse like he did that could be changed, but that's not really feasible or reasonable for this.
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I am supposed to use the hidusbf.sys from the AMD64 folder since I have a 64bit OS correct?
What are you doing with hidusbf.sys? You only have to install hidusbf.inf from the main folder; it will place the appropriate .sys in your driver directory itself.
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Nah they don't "wear out". They are doing stuff at those timings anyways; only the type of work changes, not the amount, if you will. There would be an actual gain, but also potential drawbacks.
Last I read qsx said it's likely because Logitech has their mice internally operate in 1ms integers for whatever reason. So the buffer is only written to each 1ms and thus stuff can only be transferred each 1ms also. Maybe if you hack the mouse like he did that could be changed, but that's not really feasible or reasonable for this.
What are you doing with hidusbf.sys? You only have to install hidusbf.inf from the main folder; it will place the appropriate .sys in your driver directory itself.
I thought I was supposed to put the appropriate .sys file from hidusbf.zip in C:\Windows\System32\drivers but I just realized I just copy the DRIVERS folder into the hidusbf folder and it would do it automatically. Do any of you have this working on Windows 10?
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Nah they don't "wear out". They are doing stuff at those timings anyways; only the type of work changes, not the amount, if you will. There would be an actual gain, but also potential drawbacks.
Last I read qsx said it's likely because Logitech has their mice internally operate in 1ms integers for whatever reason. So the buffer is only written to each 1ms and thus stuff can only be transferred each 1ms also. Maybe if you hack the mouse like he did that could be changed, but that's not really feasible or reasonable for this.
What are you doing with hidusbf.sys? You only have to install hidusbf.inf from the main folder; it will place the appropriate .sys in your driver directory itself.

Alright, thanks for the fast reply : D. Still a bummer about the mouse. Although i have an old DA BE that I could try in the future, hmmm that might be good biggrin.gif

Thanks!
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I thought I was supposed to put the appropriate .sys file from hidusbf.zip in C:\Windows\System32\drivers but I just realized I just copy the DRIVERS folder into the hidusbf folder and it would do it automatically. Do any of you have this working on Windows 10?
Do you want to go above 1000Hz? Yes, for that you put the .sys there yourself, but you can also just put them into the main folder and use hidusbf.inf so it installs the right drivers.
People did get it working on Windows 10. It could be that your host controllers/mainboard are the problem. Someone said it works on 2.0 ports too, but that would be strange because it'S the xHCI, i. e. 3.0 controller the filter works with from what I can tell. So, is your mouse plugged into and registered on the 3.0 port/controller?
What brand is your 3.0 USB?
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Here are screenshots of what I am doing.





Then I click 'Restart' and the mouse turns off, and now I am getting an error saying I need a signed driver (didn't happen before).
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All of that looks really right. ...You are in testmode, right? If no: cmd: bcdedit /set TESTSIGNING ON. If yes: Try to also disable integrity checks. Maybe also try "Install Service" before you "Restart".

Also, if you are only trying to get 1000Hz you don't really need the additional drivers. Just use the standard version and use a 2.0 port too.
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I just realized, my PC does not have the required USBPORT.SYS or USBXHCI.SYS files.
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All of that looks really right. ...You are in testmode, right? If no: cmd: bcdedit /set TESTSIGNING ON. If yes: Try to also disable integrity checks. Maybe also try "Install Service" before you "Restart".

Also, if you are only trying to get 1000Hz you don't really need the additional drivers. Just use the standard version and use a 2.0 port too.
Ok. I will try these things.
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wes1099's pc v2
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4670k MSI Z87-G45 Gigabyte Geforce GTX 970 G1 Gaming Crucial Ballistix Sport 8gb (2x4gb) 1600mhz 9-9... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8gb (2x4gb) 1600mhz 9-9... Crucial MX200 250gb SSD Crucial MX200 500gb SSD Random Hitachi 500gb 7200 RPM 2.5inch (salvaged... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Power Coollaboratory Liquid Pro (On-Die TIM) IC Diamond (IHS TIM) Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Acer XB240H 144hz 1080p Samsung Syncmaster 2243BWX GON NerD 60 v2.0 Gateron Black Switched w/ alum... EVGA NEX750B 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair 300r Logitech G403 Puretrak Talent White Edition Creative Sound Blaster X-FI 5.1 USB 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 250Ω JDSLabs DIY O2 Headphone Amp 1/4" Output Sennheiser HD 558 RGB led strip + Controller (modded to use molex... 
OtherOtherOtherOther
1987 IBM Model M 101 Key Buckling Spring Mechan... Massdrop Infinity Keyboard - Cherry MX Black Razer Deathadder 2013 Roccat Kone XTD Optical 
OtherOtherOther
Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 Legends Edition Hotline Gaming 0.6mm Competition Grade PTFE Mou... Royal Glam black walnut hardwood wrist rest 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-7700k ASUS Z270G Gigabyte Geforce GTX 970 G1 Gaming EVGA SuperSC DDR4-3000 2x8gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial MX200 250gb SSD Crucial MX200 500gb SSD Random Hitachi 500gb 7200 RPM 2.5inch (salvaged... Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Power 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
IC Diamond Windows 10 Pro Acer XB240H 144hz 1080p Samsung Syncmaster 2243BWX 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
GON NerD 60 v2.0 Gateron Black Switched w/ alum... EVGA NEX750B Corsair 300r Logitech G403 
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Puretrak Talent White Edition Creative Sound Blaster X-FI 5.1 USB Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 250Ω JDSLabs DIY O2 Headphone Amp 1/4" Output 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Sennheiser HD 558 RGB led strip + Controller (modded to use molex... 1987 IBM Model M 101 Key Buckling Spring Mechan... Massdrop Infinity Keyboard - Cherry MX Black 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Razer Deathadder 2013 Roccat Kone XTD Optical Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 Legends Edition Hotline Gaming 0.6mm Competition Grade PTFE Mou... 
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first custom pc
(31 items)
 
wes1099's pc v2
(30 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4670k MSI Z87-G45 Gigabyte Geforce GTX 970 G1 Gaming Crucial Ballistix Sport 8gb (2x4gb) 1600mhz 9-9... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8gb (2x4gb) 1600mhz 9-9... Crucial MX200 250gb SSD Crucial MX200 500gb SSD Random Hitachi 500gb 7200 RPM 2.5inch (salvaged... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Power Coollaboratory Liquid Pro (On-Die TIM) IC Diamond (IHS TIM) Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Acer XB240H 144hz 1080p Samsung Syncmaster 2243BWX GON NerD 60 v2.0 Gateron Black Switched w/ alum... EVGA NEX750B 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair 300r Logitech G403 Puretrak Talent White Edition Creative Sound Blaster X-FI 5.1 USB 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 250Ω JDSLabs DIY O2 Headphone Amp 1/4" Output Sennheiser HD 558 RGB led strip + Controller (modded to use molex... 
OtherOtherOtherOther
1987 IBM Model M 101 Key Buckling Spring Mechan... Massdrop Infinity Keyboard - Cherry MX Black Razer Deathadder 2013 Roccat Kone XTD Optical 
OtherOtherOther
Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 Legends Edition Hotline Gaming 0.6mm Competition Grade PTFE Mou... Royal Glam black walnut hardwood wrist rest 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-7700k ASUS Z270G Gigabyte Geforce GTX 970 G1 Gaming EVGA SuperSC DDR4-3000 2x8gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial MX200 250gb SSD Crucial MX200 500gb SSD Random Hitachi 500gb 7200 RPM 2.5inch (salvaged... Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Power 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
IC Diamond Windows 10 Pro Acer XB240H 144hz 1080p Samsung Syncmaster 2243BWX 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
GON NerD 60 v2.0 Gateron Black Switched w/ alum... EVGA NEX750B Corsair 300r Logitech G403 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Puretrak Talent White Edition Creative Sound Blaster X-FI 5.1 USB Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 250Ω JDSLabs DIY O2 Headphone Amp 1/4" Output 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Sennheiser HD 558 RGB led strip + Controller (modded to use molex... 1987 IBM Model M 101 Key Buckling Spring Mechan... Massdrop Infinity Keyboard - Cherry MX Black 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Razer Deathadder 2013 Roccat Kone XTD Optical Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 Legends Edition Hotline Gaming 0.6mm Competition Grade PTFE Mou... 
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I just got it to work with 2000hz. Now I am trying 8000hz because the intellimouse should be able to achieve that if the WMO can.

What I did to fix it was disabling driver signature verification in the advanced system repair menu of Windows 10 (you get there by locking the pc, going to the password entering screen, hold shift, click the power button icon, and click restart all while holding shift).

The uninstalling method does not work for me for some reason, so I just do a system restore to an image I made yesterday. For some reason I have to uninstall hidusbf and the re-install it with the other drivers to get over 1000hz.
Edited by wes1099 - 2/23/16 at 3:10pm
first custom pc
(31 items)
 
wes1099's pc v2
(30 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4670k MSI Z87-G45 Gigabyte Geforce GTX 970 G1 Gaming Crucial Ballistix Sport 8gb (2x4gb) 1600mhz 9-9... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8gb (2x4gb) 1600mhz 9-9... Crucial MX200 250gb SSD Crucial MX200 500gb SSD Random Hitachi 500gb 7200 RPM 2.5inch (salvaged... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Power Coollaboratory Liquid Pro (On-Die TIM) IC Diamond (IHS TIM) Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Acer XB240H 144hz 1080p Samsung Syncmaster 2243BWX GON NerD 60 v2.0 Gateron Black Switched w/ alum... EVGA NEX750B 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair 300r Logitech G403 Puretrak Talent White Edition Creative Sound Blaster X-FI 5.1 USB 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 250Ω JDSLabs DIY O2 Headphone Amp 1/4" Output Sennheiser HD 558 RGB led strip + Controller (modded to use molex... 
OtherOtherOtherOther
1987 IBM Model M 101 Key Buckling Spring Mechan... Massdrop Infinity Keyboard - Cherry MX Black Razer Deathadder 2013 Roccat Kone XTD Optical 
OtherOtherOther
Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 Legends Edition Hotline Gaming 0.6mm Competition Grade PTFE Mou... Royal Glam black walnut hardwood wrist rest 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-7700k ASUS Z270G Gigabyte Geforce GTX 970 G1 Gaming EVGA SuperSC DDR4-3000 2x8gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial MX200 250gb SSD Crucial MX200 500gb SSD Random Hitachi 500gb 7200 RPM 2.5inch (salvaged... Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Power 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
IC Diamond Windows 10 Pro Acer XB240H 144hz 1080p Samsung Syncmaster 2243BWX 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
GON NerD 60 v2.0 Gateron Black Switched w/ alum... EVGA NEX750B Corsair 300r Logitech G403 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Puretrak Talent White Edition Creative Sound Blaster X-FI 5.1 USB Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 250Ω JDSLabs DIY O2 Headphone Amp 1/4" Output 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Sennheiser HD 558 RGB led strip + Controller (modded to use molex... 1987 IBM Model M 101 Key Buckling Spring Mechan... Massdrop Infinity Keyboard - Cherry MX Black 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Razer Deathadder 2013 Roccat Kone XTD Optical Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 Legends Edition Hotline Gaming 0.6mm Competition Grade PTFE Mou... 
Other
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first custom pc
(31 items)
 
wes1099's pc v2
(30 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4670k MSI Z87-G45 Gigabyte Geforce GTX 970 G1 Gaming Crucial Ballistix Sport 8gb (2x4gb) 1600mhz 9-9... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8gb (2x4gb) 1600mhz 9-9... Crucial MX200 250gb SSD Crucial MX200 500gb SSD Random Hitachi 500gb 7200 RPM 2.5inch (salvaged... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Power Coollaboratory Liquid Pro (On-Die TIM) IC Diamond (IHS TIM) Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Acer XB240H 144hz 1080p Samsung Syncmaster 2243BWX GON NerD 60 v2.0 Gateron Black Switched w/ alum... EVGA NEX750B 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair 300r Logitech G403 Puretrak Talent White Edition Creative Sound Blaster X-FI 5.1 USB 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 250Ω JDSLabs DIY O2 Headphone Amp 1/4" Output Sennheiser HD 558 RGB led strip + Controller (modded to use molex... 
OtherOtherOtherOther
1987 IBM Model M 101 Key Buckling Spring Mechan... Massdrop Infinity Keyboard - Cherry MX Black Razer Deathadder 2013 Roccat Kone XTD Optical 
OtherOtherOther
Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 Legends Edition Hotline Gaming 0.6mm Competition Grade PTFE Mou... Royal Glam black walnut hardwood wrist rest 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-7700k ASUS Z270G Gigabyte Geforce GTX 970 G1 Gaming EVGA SuperSC DDR4-3000 2x8gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial MX200 250gb SSD Crucial MX200 500gb SSD Random Hitachi 500gb 7200 RPM 2.5inch (salvaged... Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Power 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
IC Diamond Windows 10 Pro Acer XB240H 144hz 1080p Samsung Syncmaster 2243BWX 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
GON NerD 60 v2.0 Gateron Black Switched w/ alum... EVGA NEX750B Corsair 300r Logitech G403 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Puretrak Talent White Edition Creative Sound Blaster X-FI 5.1 USB Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 250Ω JDSLabs DIY O2 Headphone Amp 1/4" Output 
AudioOtherOtherOther
Sennheiser HD 558 RGB led strip + Controller (modded to use molex... 1987 IBM Model M 101 Key Buckling Spring Mechan... Massdrop Infinity Keyboard - Cherry MX Black 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Razer Deathadder 2013 Roccat Kone XTD Optical Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 Legends Edition Hotline Gaming 0.6mm Competition Grade PTFE Mou... 
Other
Royal Glam black walnut hardwood wrist rest 
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