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I decided to get away from AIO and go with a custom Loop, This would be my first time. At this time I'm only going to cool CPU Which is i7 5960x. Down the load I might add my GPU. I have to pace my self due to budget. Right now I want to focus on CPU and getting the temps as low as possible.

1. What would be better to get a 240 or 280 Radiator?
2. Whats better to get Eloops or Noctua? Looking for good performance with very low noise.
3. Whats best size of tubing to buy? Is 5/8 x 3/8 Good or would another size be better for my case?
4. Anything else I need to know or Buy would be Helpful.


This is what I came up with, Let me know if this is good or is their better parts I should look at.


My Case: Case-Labs S8S Supports up to 280mm Radiators currently, Can get it increased to 360 if needed. Not sure how much of a temp increase I would get going from 240/280 to 360.

Res/Pump: EK-DBAY D5 PWM (incl. pump) or EK-DBAY D5 PWM MX - Acetal (incl. pump)

or

Not 100% Sure I can do this yet due to space.

Res: EK-DBAY Spin Reservoir
Pump: MCP-655 (Performance-PCs Über 655 Fully Modded (D5) 12 VDC Water Pump - Matte Black)


CPU Block: RayStorm Pro (Intel) Black or EK-Supremacy EVO X99 - Full Nickel
Radiator: Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 Full Copper 280mm (Two) or Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 Full Copper 240mm (Two)
Coolant: EK-Ekoolant EVO Liquid Coolant - CLEAR (premix 1 Liter)
Fans: NB-eLoop Series 140mm (B14-PS) / NB-eLoop Series 120mm (B12-P) or Noctua NF-A14 PWM / Noctua NF-F12 PWM
Tubing: EK-Tube ZMT Rubber 15.9/9.5mm (5/8" x 3/8") Tubing - Matte Black
Fittings: EK-ACF Compression Fitting 10/16mm (3/8 x 5/8") - Black Nickel or Bitspower G1/4" to 3/8" ID, 5/8" OD Compression Fitting
post #2 of 18
Since its your first custom loop you might want to consider one of these kits based on your component list. Kits have everything you need with instructions and takes a lot of the guess work out of buying the components.

The difference in a 240 and 280 rad will be marginal. If you can fit a 360 that would be the way to go imo. That would make adding your GPU down the road easy by just adding the GPU block and 240 rad. All of the components you chose are good, but do you have to go with a bay res? A tube res usually has a better ascetic quality.
 
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Since its your first custom loop you might want to consider one of these kits based on your component list. Kits have everything you need with instructions and takes a lot of the guess work out of buying the components.

The difference in a 240 and 280 rad will be marginal. If you can fit a 360 that would be the way to go imo. That would make adding your GPU down the road easy by just adding the GPU block and 240 rad. All of the components you chose are good, but do you have to go with a bay res? A tube res usually has a better ascetic quality.

I'm guessing that you meant to say that the difference between the 280 (39,200 sq mm) and 360 (43,200 sq mm) is marginal? Since they are actually very close in size and far larger than a 240 (28,800 sq mm).

And, yes, a D5 kit is absolutely the way to go for a CPU only.

Also, the Alphacool rads are an older design and don't stack up well against something newer like a Nemesis GTS - http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/11/radiator-round-2015/6/
Alphacool rads are also notorious for being filled with flux and garbage out of the box. They do not make a good beginners rad.....unless you feel like doing a lot of research on pre-cleaning your parts, and then spending a lot of time cleaning, flushing and rinsing prior to using it.
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Here is a water cooling guide i made that may help you out.

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/913181-water-cooling-guide-noobs.html#post11984918

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The S8S is a very unique chassis, since you can use the top for rads but when doing so you partially obstruct two of your 120mm fans. It was shortened 4inches from the S8 in order to use the S5 full window side panels. Kind of believe if they had only shortened it 3inches then the fans would not be obstructed, but for manufacturing simplicity I guess, they lowered it by 4.0 inches.


I had an S8 and hated the rads mounted over the hardware, the S8S is my favorite chassis on planet earth as long as you use a full window up top instead of rads to display your hardware with that "under glass" effect like a jewelry store display case. thumb.gif


Radiators and form factors.


1) you can use a pedestal to accommodate two 360mm rads.

2) you can mount (2) rads up top BUT then you need to add the extended top and even with the CaseLabs extended top you will partially obstruct the left front intake fan and the right rear exhaust fan.

3) you can mount one rad lower left chamber 360mm or 240mm and another front FlexBay 240mm or 280mm, and keep your form factor very small and still achieve amazing cooling.



I chose to make mine as SFF as possible, using only a 240mm lower left chamber and 280mm FlexBay front mount.


Is your 5960X heavily overclocked? Will you always use only single graphics?

I would decide just how much cooling you need, then decide which form factor you find most aesthetically appealing. smile.gif


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post #6 of 18
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Originally Posted by iBruce View Post

The S8S is a very unique chassis, since you can use the top for rads but when doing so you partially obstruct two of your 120mm fans. It was shortened 4inches from the S8 in order to use the S5 full window side panels. Kind of believe if they had only shortened it 3inches then the fans would not be obstructed, but for manufacturing simplicity I guess, they lowered it by 4.0 inches.


I had an S8 and hated the rads mounted over the hardware, the S8S is my favorite chassis on planet earth as long as you use a full window up top instead of rads to display your hardware with that "under glass" effect like a jewelry store display case. thumb.gif


Radiators and form factors.


1) you can use a pedestal to accommodate two 360mm rads.

2) you can mount (2) rads up top BUT then you need to add the extended top and even with the CaseLabs extended top you will partially obstruct the left front intake fan and the right rear exhaust fan.

3) you can mount one rad lower left chamber 360mm or 240mm and another front FlexBay 240mm or 280mm, and keep your form factor very small and still achieve amazing cooling.



I chose to make mine as SFF as possible, using only a 240mm lower left chamber and 280mm FlexBay front mount.


Is your 5960X heavily overclocked? Will you always use only single graphics?

I would decide just how much cooling you need, then decide which form factor you find most aesthetically appealing. smile.gif


.

Right now, It's only at stock with XMP ram enabled. Nothing else. I'm sticking with single GPU. I don't have the room to add anymore since I have allot of addon cards.

The left side I have filled with my harddrives, only the right side is kind of open.

Here is what my case looks like currently:


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Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

Since its your first custom loop you might want to consider one of these kits based on your component list. Kits have everything you need with instructions and takes a lot of the guess work out of buying the components.

The difference in a 240 and 280 rad will be marginal. If you can fit a 360 that would be the way to go imo. That would make adding your GPU down the road easy by just adding the GPU block and 240 rad. All of the components you chose are good, but do you have to go with a bay res? A tube res usually has a better ascetic quality.

The issue currently is space. I have no idea where I would put a pump/res. Trying to figure all that out now.
post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by Revan654 View Post

Right now, It's only at stock with XMP ram enabled. Nothing else. I'm sticking with single GPU. I don't have the room to add anymore since I have allot of addon cards.

The left side I have filled with my harddrives, only the right side is kind of open.

Here is what my case looks like currently:




Wow, you have a lot of gear, I respect a serious workstation. smile.gif


Is that an EK Predator 240 you're using for cooling?


If your plan is to keep all your current components and adding radiators?


Then I would go with an S8/S8S pedestal and two 360mm radiators mounted down below.


http://www.caselabs-store.com/pedestal-mercury-s8-and-s8s/
     
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post #9 of 18
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Wow, you have a lot of gear, I respect a serious workstation. smile.gif


Is that an EK Predator 240 you're using for cooling?


If your plan is to keep all your current components and adding radiators?


Then I would go with an S8/S8S pedestal and two 360mm radiators mounted down below.


http://www.caselabs-store.com/pedestal-mercury-s8-and-s8s/

Yes, It's an EK Predator(Nothing but a horror story with it since Day 1, due to recalls and shipping broken Rad with it). I just got a replaced, It was leaking right out of the box. Why I want to go with custom loop. Sick of trying to get a working AIO. I'll do it my self and I know it will work like it's suppose to and not break down in a month due to a bad o-ring.

I do plan to keep everything in tact.

Going have to check and see if Pedestal will fit where I house my PC.

I know the top right can fit upto 3 inches Radiator (With fans, Since Predator fit in their without issue.) Before becoming an issue. Left top is another story due to the GPU. I would have to get something very slim. It's why I like Alpha cool Radiator their nice a slim, Since I'm not adding a GPU right now. I think they should do the job.

Also I saw this over XPSC Website: http://www.xs-pc.com/water-pumps/ion-pumpreservoir

I know it's not the most powerful pump or biggest Res. It could cut down on space. If possible I could have more then one in my PC.
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ANy difference between Copper and Copper with Nickel coating? I know someone told me once, one is near maintenance free as possible as long as you have a anti-corrosion and biological growth inhibitor in the water.
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