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I have an AMD FX-6100 with a MSI 970A-G43 mother board. I remember I was able to set the CPU Ratio up to +22 with no problems. Eventually I settled for the "OC Genie II" setting which gave me a stable 4.3Ghz that I've been using for over 2 years.

Yesterday I upgraded to a bigger case so that my H100i GTX cooler would fit. I cleared my CMOS and started the computer & everything worked fine. I went into the bios and selected the OC Genie II option and restarted and only got 3.3Ghz instead of the 4.3Ghz.

I disabled power saving and some other features; AMD Turbo Tech, Spread spectrum, OC genie lite. and slowly went up the multiplier. until I got to +18, (3.8ghz)

If I go over +18 I'll get the BSOD after the windows 7 logo disappears or it will just freeze at the logo. Has anyone else had a similar problem?
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What else do you have in your system?
Please give a full spec list.
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It is much better to do a manual overclock than whatever the board "OC feature" it has. And when shilka asks what "system specs" you have, shilka really meant what psu you have tongue.gif
    
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I have an AMD FX-6100 with a MSI 970A-G43 mother board. I remember I was able to set the CPU Ratio up to +22 with no problems. Eventually I settled for the "OC Genie II" setting which gave me a stable 4.3Ghz that I've been using for over 2 years.

Yesterday I upgraded to a bigger case so that my H100i GTX cooler would fit. I cleared my CMOS and started the computer & everything worked fine. I went into the bios and selected the OC Genie II option and restarted and only got 3.3Ghz instead of the 4.3Ghz.

I disabled power saving and some other features; AMD Turbo Tech, Spread spectrum, OC genie lite. and slowly went up the multiplier. until I got to +18, (3.8ghz)

If I go over +18 I'll get the BSOD after the windows 7 logo disappears or it will just freeze at the logo. Has anyone else had a similar problem?


We have machines where I work that go for years and years. The minute you move them, change something, basically even look at them wrong they get mad and give you fits. But yes, ditch that auto overclock and do it the right way.
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MSI 970A-G43 Motherboard
AMD FX-6100
MSI R9-390
ASUS Xonar DGX
Kingston HyperX FURY 8GB
Corsair H100i GTX Cooler
PSU is a Cooler Master V750w.

Even when I had my Raidmax 530w I could still reach 4.3 with no problems.
The only thing I've changed is the cooler and case. I've tried to manually overclock by changing the CPU ratio but I can't go over +18, which is not a very stable 3.8ghz (as the BSOD showed me)

Where did my 4.3ghz go? Could it have something to do with the cooler?
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Originally Posted by bellalisa52 View Post

MSI 970A-G43 Motherboard
AMD FX-6100
MSI R9-390
ASUS Xonar DGX
Kingston HyperX FURY 8GB
Corsair H100i GTX Cooler
PSU is a Cooler Master V750w.

Even when I had my Raidmax 530w I could still reach 4.3 with no problems.
The only thing I've changed is the cooler and case. I've tried to manually overclock by changing the CPU ratio but I can't go over +18, which is not a very stable 3.8ghz (as the BSOD showed me)

Where did my 4.3ghz go? Could it have something to do with the cooler?

What i think happen was with your prior cooler, it would detect average temperatures thus putting average voltages and multiplier. But now that your board sees the temperature so low on the cpu with your new cooler that it puts unrealistic voltages and multipliers in which your 6100 may not be stable at those clocks. Go with the traditional method. Just search literally anywhere. There are TONS of AM3+ overclock guides out there.
    
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Originally Posted by bellalisa52 View Post

MSI 970A-G43 Motherboard

The only thing I've changed is the cooler and case. I've tried to manually overclock by changing the CPU ratio but I can't go over +18, which is not a very stable 3.8ghz (as the BSOD showed me)
Check tempertures using hwmonitor. Do a manuall overclock like others said.
Some times after reapplying thermal paste contact might not be perfect so temps aren't good
post #8 of 14
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The hottest its gotten with the new cooler on a heavy load is about 53c at 3.87ghz before prime95 freezes compared to the 62c I used to get at 4.3ghz without a freeze.

I tried changing the ratio to +18.5 and increased the voltage from 1.392 to 1.400, 1.5, all the way up to 1.648 and couldn't get past POST. I tried 1.648v again and changed the CPU FSB Frequency from 200 to 215 had to do a cmos reset.

Right now I'm tempted to take the cooler off and go back to fans as a last ditch effort I've been at it for almost 2 days. :-(
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Originally Posted by bellalisa52 View Post

The hottest its gotten with the new cooler on a heavy load is about 53c at 3.87ghz before prime95 freezes compared to the 62c I used to get at 4.3ghz without a freeze.

I tried changing the ratio to +18.5 and increased the voltage from 1.392 to 1.400, 1.5, all the way up to 1.648 and couldn't get past POST. I tried 1.648v again and changed the CPU FSB Frequency from 200 to 215 had to do a cmos reset.

Right now I'm tempted to take the cooler off and go back to fans as a last ditch effort I've been at it for almost 2 days. :-(
If you can get 1.5V and it dosen't even boot at 4.2 4.3GHZ
That means its a bios plorbem. Not cpu stabibiltly plorbem. You might try overclocking in windows then

The msi might come with a oc software used in windows, chaning fsb multiplier and voltages in windows could be done

Edit: 1.6V is up there for a 970board. Make sure your vrms are chilled. possibly a good idea to keep voltages below 1.55V
Edited by Iwamotto Tetsuz - 1/31/16 at 3:08pm
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It still has the stock bios from years ago. I'm going to try and update it later in the week and see if that does anything.
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