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Well lately I've been thinking about upgrading my pc and I wanted to see what you guys thought.

So I have a pretty old pc that I've been upgrading over the years.
Specs:
i3 550 3.2ghz
Msi H55m-E23
8gb gskill ripjaws
EVGA GTX660 2GB
500W Corsair psu
500gb Western Digital Caviar Blue

I've always been an Intel guy but after checking out the latest offerings I realized that I would need to upgrade pretty much everything such as DDR4 ram, power supply that supports the new processors, etc.

Then I checked out AMD and I liked that I could upgrade my cpu and mobo and still use the rest of my build for a few more years until I do a completely new build.

I was thinking about a AMD FX 6300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286#close

..and then one of these matx boards (anyone have any input on which one to go with?) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007625%20600138080%20600009017


One draw back that I read about is that some people are having trouble running windows 10 with a set up like this. Anyone having any trouble?
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Originally Posted by Fear Before View Post

Well lately I've been thinking about upgrading my pc and I wanted to see what you guys thought.

So I have a pretty old pc that I've been upgrading over the years.
Specs:
i3 550 3.2ghz
Msi H55m-E23
8gb gskill ripjaws
EVGA GTX660 2GB
500W Corsair psu
500gb Western Digital Caviar Blue

I've always been an Intel guy but after checking out the latest offerings I realized that I would need to upgrade pretty much everything such as DDR4 ram, power supply that supports the new processors, etc.

Then I checked out AMD and I liked that I could upgrade my cpu and mobo and still use the rest of my build for a few more years until I do a completely new build.

I was thinking about a AMD FX 6300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286#close

..and then one of these matx boards (anyone have any input on which one to go with?) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007625%20600138080%20600009017


One draw back that I read about is that some people are having trouble running windows 10 with a set up like this. Anyone having any trouble?


Check my post
http://www.overclock.net/t/1589114/overclocking-fx-6300-to-4-5-ghz-prime-95-stable-for-10-hours-with-benchmarks

The guys in the forum gave so much feedback about the processor it might be useful to you
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You could get an used Ivy (and a mobo) or something along those lines, it will smoke the FX and you can use your DDR3 RAM and stuff.

EDIT : Didn't realize this was in the AMD subforum. My apologies. You could still totally go for that Ivy though.
    
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Originally Posted by Fear Before View Post

Well lately I've been thinking about upgrading my pc and I wanted to see what you guys thought.

So I have a pretty old pc that I've been upgrading over the years.
Specs:
i3 550 3.2ghz
Msi H55m-E23
8gb gskill ripjaws
EVGA GTX660 2GB
500W Corsair psu
500gb Western Digital Caviar Blue

I've always been an Intel guy but after checking out the latest offerings I realized that I would need to upgrade pretty much everything such as DDR4 ram, power supply that supports the new processors, etc.

Then I checked out AMD and I liked that I could upgrade my cpu and mobo and still use the rest of my build for a few more years until I do a completely new build.

I was thinking about a AMD FX 6300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286

You could just put a second hand i7 in your current board, get similar performance, and save some hassle.
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One draw back that I read about is that some people are having trouble running windows 10 with a set up like this. Anyone having any trouble?

I haven't heard this and I'm skeptical of the idea that Windows 10 would have more issues than usual on the setup you mention, but thus far I have only installed Windows 10 on fairly recent laptops.
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Originally Posted by Fear Before View Post

Well lately I've been thinking about upgrading my pc and I wanted to see what you guys thought.

So I have a pretty old pc that I've been upgrading over the years.
Specs:
i3 550 3.2ghz
Msi H55m-E23
8gb gskill ripjaws
EVGA GTX660 2GB
500W Corsair psu
500gb Western Digital Caviar Blue

I've always been an Intel guy but after checking out the latest offerings I realized that I would need to upgrade pretty much everything such as DDR4 ram, power supply that supports the new processors, etc.

Then I checked out AMD and I liked that I could upgrade my cpu and mobo and still use the rest of my build for a few more years until I do a completely new build.

I was thinking about a AMD FX 6300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286#close

..and then one of these matx boards (anyone have any input on which one to go with?) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007625%20600138080%20600009017


One draw back that I read about is that some people are having trouble running windows 10 with a set up like this. Anyone having any trouble?

 

No issues with W10 on my FX-6350 build. It's a bit of a Frankenrig as well, though I'm using an ATX motherboard, the M5A99X EVO r2.0.

 

One thing to consider with Skylake out and Zen supposedly coming this year is whether you want to be stuck on an older architecture for couple of years. I suppose it all has to do with budget. I was able to assemble a nice little i3-6320 rig on the Z170XP-SLI and some DDR4 RAM for ~$350 USD. Plays everything extremely well with a 380x. If that's more than you want to spend and are really fine with waiting for a couple of years, the 8320e and the 6300 are both very clockable budget options and you should be able to get a decent board like a GB UD3 or 99FX Pro with the processor for something like ~$200 USD.

 

Do you need an mAtx board or can your build accommodate ATX?

 

edit: currency conversions :X


Edited by SuperZan - 2/1/16 at 11:53am
     
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Throw a $90 i7 860 in the thing and call it a day. Save your money for a later upgrade that actually makes a difference. thumb.gif
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If you went with 1150 socket, everything would be able to be reused except the motherboard and CPU.
Your power supply is just fine for your build and almost any upgrade you perform on it.

As for AMD offerings, Pretty much any AMD FX chip is gonna get beat by intel unless you go with one of the 9xxx series AMD chips and overclock to the moon.
But if you go with the 9xxx series, you are gonna end up spending just as much as you would on intel.
So unless you need the actual core count for stuff like video encoding, go with intel, as it is gonna give you a better overall performance in most applications.
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If you went with 1150 socket, everything would be able to be reused except the motherboard and CPU.
Your power supply is just fine for your build and almost any upgrade you perform on it.

As for AMD offerings, Pretty much any AMD FX chip is gonna get beat by intel unless you go with one of the 9xxx series AMD chips and overclock to the moon.
But if you go with the 9xxx series, you are gonna end up spending just as much as you would on intel.
So unless you need the actual core count for stuff like video encoding, go with intel, as it is gonna give you a better overall performance in most applications.


No. Just no.

No AMD user recommends the 9xxx for anyone except experts. Any of the current 8xxx CPUs are better for everyday use. In this case an 8370E, an ASUS board, and a Phantek 14 PE cooler should be good for 4.8 ghz 24/7. At those speeds it can play any modern game successfully.

At 5ghz the FX is about the same as most intels. It is the king at getting the most bang for your buck.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core&id=1780
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No. Just no.

No AMD user recommends the 9xxx for anyone except experts. Any of the current 8xxx CPUs are better for everyday use. In this case an 8370E, an ASUS board, and a Phantek 14 PE cooler should be good for 4.8 ghz 24/7. At those speeds it can play any modern game successfully.


At 5ghz the FX is about the same as most intels. It is the king at getting the most bang for your buck.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core&id=1780

 

:teaching:  miklkit is one of the many great posters whom I've learned a lot from in the Vishera Owner's thread, he knows his stuff. From personal experience I can verify that the 8320, 8350, 8370 and their 'e' variants are easily overclocked with decent air cooling and the boards are cheaper for better quality, relatively. As an example, a great OC board for the AM3+ socket like the 990FX Sabertooth can be had for the same price as an similarly aged LGA 1155 AsRock Extreme4 (relatively 'budget' overclockable board). So if you want to move off of the existing motherboard rather than slot an i7 from that family, FX-8xxx and board is not at all bad for the price/performance.

     
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The OP is looking at MATX boards so 125w CPU's are out of the question. If it has to be MATX then I would opt for the GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-USB3 motherboard and either the FX 8320e or 8370e. I don't think an FX 6300 would be much of a performance boost over even an older I3 to make it worth the switch.
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