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I'm using two Ubiquiti devices at home, and I can't recommend them enough.
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You don't need a controller for the Cisco APs if you run them in autonomous mode, by the way.
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That Cisco unit may require stupid annual licensing. Caveat emptor
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Ok cool, I figured as much. Glad that was cleared up lol. Sounds good. I. The process to find the APs. Very hard to find for a 2x pair.
post #15 of 21
I think coachmark brought some very good points here. However I am offering something from my own. I have experience of setting up max 500APs in cross-buildings sites and the maintenance works there after.

These are some of the questions that you would like to ask yourself
- Would your guests walk around when they use wifi? If their signal jumps around the APs when they use the washroom and their secure sessions dropped, is that okay?
- If you suspect your client using your wifi network to terror attack the government, would you want to be able to track who is who?
- Do you mind one of your clients using a BT client and acting as a server killing your network and everyone else complains? Do you want to control the bandwidth from a single connection? Do the employee wants a separate SSID with more bandwidth and higher access right?
- What if one of your clients acting as a fake AP, intercepting packets from other clients and steal their bank password and important emails? Do you want to be able to detect and counter that?

Home WIFI and business WIFI are two different concepts. If I am you, the first question I am going to ask my friend is, "what is your budget?"
post #16 of 21
I've never worked, or actually seen, ubiquiti devices. Cannot add anything on that.
What I've done is Fortinet solution. Their AP's + Fortigate work great where I used that solution. All config is done via Fortigate, you just authorize FortiAP to get config from fortigate and it's done. + you're doing that on firewall so you get all the rest needed. Including network segregation by vlans.
They provide you free software to calculate which AP's, how many you need and where to place them for most coverage.
I've no idea about price comparison, it could be higher than the rest because you are going to buy their Firewall too. But it's awesome as a complete solution.
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I think coachmark brought some very good points here. However I am offering something from my own. I have experience of setting up max 500APs in cross-buildings sites and the maintenance works there after.

These are some of the questions that you would like to ask yourself
- Would your guests walk around when they use wifi? If their signal jumps around the APs when they use the washroom and their secure sessions dropped, is that okay?
- If you suspect your client using your wifi network to terror attack the government, would you want to be able to track who is who?
- Do you mind one of your clients using a BT client and acting as a server killing your network and everyone else complains? Do you want to control the bandwidth from a single connection? Do the employee wants a separate SSID with more bandwidth and higher access right?
- What if one of your clients acting as a fake AP, intercepting packets from other clients and steal their bank password and important emails? Do you want to be able to detect and counter that?

Home WIFI and business WIFI are two different concepts. If I am you, the first question I am going to ask my friend is, "what is your budget?"

Oh yes I do agree with coachmark as well. The thing is that its a restaurant like I had said in the earlier post. basically they'd be sitting at the table which is normally 3-4 per booth which will add around 120 ish clients after everything said and done. Sitting mostly for them. Which is no big deal.

For the most part everybody that comes in are regulars besides a given few. So no terroristic attacks, But I am glad you brought that up, As far as the primary and guest networks go. Yes I will be separating the networks for the employees and guests. So no issues there with that. I don't recall the speed that they currently have But I will have to get back to them. Here either this week or next week TWC will be boosting up the speeds for all customers too, ie: 30Mbps users will get 200Mbps ( is what im told) for instance.

Yes for the security is an absolute. I will also post a warning paper stating that it will be a public network but I would love to make that so no stealing info is very very very important for both parties

As well as budget I will ask them again. I mean literally anything is cool with me to give them a broad option on everything. I mean with cisco stuff was around 1500$ with 2 APs + controller (if needed) which I had told them that. Or the Ubi AP's with no controller ( if needed) + I need a great firewall ( If they do not have one but Once again I have to double check their whole surroundings. Its been a couple weeks lol)
Edited by Cloudforever - 2/10/16 at 12:35pm
post #18 of 21
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Originally Posted by coachmark2 View Post

That Cisco unit may require stupid annual licensing. Caveat emptor

What standalone Cisco units do you know of that require you to pay an annual fee to use them? If you're talking about Cisco-managed systems, or any services from them that may require a "subscribed" fee, then that's completely different. But simply purchasing networking hardware, or even networking software for that matter, from Cisco or from any resellers requires no additional fees after the purchase. To that end, you could even just go to amazon, ebay, etc.. and buy relatively new surplus or decom'd Cisco APs for a fraction of the price you would pay if you went directly through Cisco or resellers.

Just something to consider anyways.
post #19 of 21
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Yea I Know about the liscencing stuff that goes on but that's for like huge huge businesses that require that type of stuff, Not a small business end user smile.gif lol yea I am thinking either Ebay Or something else like a reseller type. Would be the best option there. As far as security purposes like firewall or hackers of any type. What would be a good suggestion there? Personal info protection would be like a 10012954329% definite must
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I'd go with a pfSense firewall myself. No licensing, can be run on any hardware you choose, infinitely up-gradable, support available, what's not to love?
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