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Demon's Soul's is all i care about wheee.gif

YES.
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I'd honestly rather have Metal Gear Solid Legacy Collection and Demon's Souls either on Steam or PS4.

Now that I come to think of it I am surprised they haven't announced Demon's Souls remastered for PS4 yet. biggrin.gif

I agree but if we can get this emulator to work, we can play MGS4 in 1080p60 which would be awesome! Full 60fps
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I want this emulator so bad! I would love to replay the PS3 exclusives on my PC, particularly Demon's Souls! medieval.gif
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When I got my ps3 back in the day, I remember being extremely dissapointed and felt tricked that the games were in 720p and not 1080p. I got told numerous types the ps3 supported full HD but that only applied to smaller indie games like Fat Princess.

So what I'm trying to say is, I am looking forward to finally playing the killzone games in 1080p
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I'm really interested in CPU demands for PS3 emulation. I see they're using an overclocked 6700K, but knowing that the PS3's Cell BE processor has 1 PPE and 7 SPEs and is heavily-purposed for vector processing, I would think the ideal CPU for PS3 emulation would be some highly-clocked octocore monster with the latest AVX instructions. Like... Skylake-E with AVX-512 eventually.

I'm curious to know if any current quad-cores will ever be enough for perfect PS3 emulation.

I'd expect most of the stuff the SPEs were used for (and they often weren't used well) to be able to be done on GPUs via OpenCL or the like at some point.

Regardless, even modern quad core x86 CPUs have greater theoretical vector performance than a fully enabled CellBE and it's not far fetched to think we'll see most PS3 titles run at full speed or better on CPUs similar to what was used here. After-all, unless accuracy is a prime goal, there will be all sorts of hacks on a per-title basis to dramatically speed things up.
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Demon Souls is amazing, walks all over Dark Souls in my opinion. Finished that game at least 9 times hehe. Would be great to replay it with higher fps though. thumb.gif
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I agree but if we can get this emulator to work, we can play MGS4 in 1080p60 which would be awesome! Full 60fps

Emulators don't work that way do they?

I am pretty sure I could never play games at 60fps that originally run only at 30fps. I don't play emulators much to be honest.
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I agree but if we can get this emulator to work, we can play MGS4 in 1080p60 which would be awesome! Full 60fps

Emulators don't work that way do they?

I am pretty sure I could never play games at 60fps that originally run only at 30fps. I don't play emulators much to be honest.

As long as the game is frame rate independent, that should not be a problem. I don't think it's related to the emulator, but rather than the engine itself. If the game logic is not tied to a fixed game clock, then issues may arise.

However this subject is actually quite complex and you should take my post with a grain of salt as I am not really familiar with it.
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Emulators don't work that way do they?

I am pretty sure I could never play games at 60fps that originally run only at 30fps. I don't play emulators much to be honest.

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Originally Posted by fragamemnon View Post

As long as the game is frame rate independent, that should not be a problem. I don't think it's related to the emulator, but rather than the engine itself. If the game logic is not tied to a fixed game clock, then issues may arise.

However this subject is actually quite complex and you should take my post with a grain of salt as I am not really familiar with it.

Zealord has a point, at what point did console ports start implementing build in vsync or frame limiting?
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Emulators don't work that way do they?

I am pretty sure I could never play games at 60fps that originally run only at 30fps. I don't play emulators much to be honest.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fragamemnon View Post

As long as the game is frame rate independent, that should not be a problem. I don't think it's related to the emulator, but rather than the engine itself. If the game logic is not tied to a fixed game clock, then issues may arise.

However this subject is actually quite complex and you should take my post with a grain of salt as I am not really familiar with it.

Zealord has a point, at what point did console ports start implementing build in vsync or frame limiting?

I am quite unsure but unless you can code the came to run at exactly the same framerate all the time, you would need to make your input either FRI, or implement one of these two mechanics.

Perhaps there is another workaround, I don't really know. This is just guesswork. smile.gif
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2x8GB (for now) Kingston DDR4 @ 2133MHz/C16 Samsung 840 120GB EK-Vardar F4 on an Arctic Freezer i11 Ubuntu Server 16.04 
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SeaSonic SS850-AM overrated 
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Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US 4x4GB kit @ 2200MHz 9-10-1... 2x Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB RAID 0 Samsung 840 Evo 250GB 2xAquacomputer Kryographics Hawaii Nickel/Acrylic 
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XSPC Rasa Swiftech MCP-655 Vario Aquacomputer Aqualis 450mm w/ nano & Pump top 2x XSPC RX360; 1x XSPC RS360; 1x Alphacool ST 1... 
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2x8GB (for now) Kingston DDR4 @ 2133MHz/C16 Samsung 840 120GB EK-Vardar F4 on an Arctic Freezer i11 Ubuntu Server 16.04 
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