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Guild Wars 2 was B2P.

B2P is an excellent model, Guild Wars 2 was extremely successful by going the same route as the original game by using the B2P model instead of F2P or P2W.

B2P MMO communities have a quality feel like how was Guild Wars 2 compared to F2P MMOs, you also get less cheaters and trolls.

Now it's kind of F2P, but with limitations until you buy Heart of Thorns IIRC.
the hell are you smoking GW2 is still b2p
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Game is good, but it's attached to Anti-Cheat Root Kit called Xigncode. This little bugger is super intrusive and has bad detection. It will Scan ALL of your HDDs looking for "Hacks" It also scans anything you used/opened in the past 48 hours.

It also closes the games if it detects something it doesn't like. Such as BitDefender, Teamspeak3 Plugins, Steam, Razer etc.

I would recommend installing this in a sandbox.
Calling BS on this. I was in the first closed beta and had TS (on and off), mumble, razer, steam, and many other programs running with no problem.
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Those graphics are atrocious. Then again, it was made by a dime-a-dozen Korean developer with development starting in 2010, so I'm not at all surprised.

The game looks gorgeous.
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Korean MMOs just need to die. You always get some combination of pointless grind, horrible open world PvP, Pay2Win AIDS(hello Archeage and BaS).

Like they give a damn about what you want or the whole western market for that matter. Pretty much like anime and manga or anything they like and we don't. They treat the western market as an extra, development is meant exclusively for the Korean market. If they cared even a bit about the western market KMMORPGs wouldn't take years to be launched over here.
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Then again, my main MMO was Guild Wars 2, so the joke's on me. If they do give you guys a good game, give them 3 years to completely ruin it.

I agree with this, they make absolutely zero sense when launching updates. So play it now and don't wait until they make it F2P.

Good thing Gameforge isn't in charge for the EU version.
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Those graphics are atrocious. Then again, it was made by a dime-a-dozen Korean developer with development starting in 2010, so I'm not at all surprised.

Korean MMOs just need to die. You always get some combination of pointless grind, horrible open world PvP, Pay2Win AIDS(hello Archeage and BaS).

Then again, my main MMO was Guild Wars 2, so the joke's on me. If they do give you guys a good game, give them 3 years to completely ruin it.

Oh my lord, you're joking right? Please tell me you're joking! Tell me one MMO, just ONE MMO that looks better than this graphically.
It's probably the best looking MMO and one of the best looking PC games to date!

Do you just not like the art style or something?
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Originally Posted by Rylo View Post

Those graphics are atrocious. Then again, it was made by a dime-a-dozen Korean developer with development starting in 2010, so I'm not at all surprised.

Korean MMOs just need to die. You always get some combination of pointless grind, horrible open world PvP, Pay2Win AIDS(hello Archeage and BaS).

Then again, my main MMO was Guild Wars 2, so the joke's on me. If they do give you guys a good game, give them 3 years to completely ruin it.
I don't like it so it has to die.
Can we please stop arrogant statements like by now? Some people enjoy that stuff and you want their fun taken away for what exactly?
Don't like it? Don't play it.
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Oh my lord, you're joking right? Please tell me you're joking! Tell me one MMO, just ONE MMO that looks better than this graphically.
It's probably the best looking MMO and one of the best looking PC games to date!

Do you just not like the art style or something?
Personally i think FFXIV looks better, but that might be because it has a different art style.
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Oh my lord, you're joking right? Please tell me you're joking! Tell me one MMO, just ONE MMO that looks better than this graphically.
It's probably the best looking MMO and one of the best looking PC games to date!

Do you just not like the art style or something?

I also don't really understand the huge hype behind the graphical aspects of this game, (only to some extent). I also only even bring it up because, I cannot read/watch literally anything got to do with this game without somebody saying something like "wow, the graphics are totally amazing, unreal...", etc.

Imo, this game has the graphical fidelity that looks great in screenshots, and to the untrained eye. But in motion - during gameplay. It's seriously overhyped, to me. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not bad-mouthing the game, just making observational comments from a gfx background.

Saying that. To me the visuals in this game seem like (to sum it up, and keep it simple) as if you gave some indie dev CryEngine 3, on their first ever game project. They then used its very intricate rendering pipeline, and shader framework. But didn't really know what they were doing for the most part, and it ended up not using the real potential of the engine. So the rendering ended up looking good overall, but very 'crude' looking.

Also worth mentioning: the object draw & lod pop-in is terrible; possibly the worst I've ever seen.

Again, I'm in no way hating on this game. Just perplexed why everyone is going ape for the graphics in this.

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Personally i think FFXIV looks better, but that might be because it has a different art style.

Imo, FF XIV would probably be one of the most beautiful MMOs released, if they didn't have all of their material asset surfaces, for light interaction set to "plastic" lol. It really looks like every material type in the game, from skin, to stone, has been surfaced with a layer of plastic.
Edited by Asmodean - 2/4/16 at 12:56pm
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Honestly i cannot think of another mmo that goes for a more realistic art style (compared to all the rest) while at the same time being so graphical intense. I might be missing one or two tough.
Not to mention it might have the best character creator i seen ever in an mmo, at least from the face part.
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Honestly i cannot think of another mmo that goes for a more realistic art style (compared to all the rest) while at the same time being so graphical intense. I might be missing one or two tough.
Not to mention it might have the best character creator i seen ever in an mmo, at least from the face part.

Slightly OT, but: You should check out "Moonlight Blade". It's another MMORPG. From China, I believe. It's not over here (yet?), though. It has (imo) some of the most impressive visuals, & vfx that I've ever witnessed in an mmo.

It's pretty freaking impressive looking ;p

edit: also the character creation in it, is practically the same as Black Desert. Possible even more refined
Edited by Asmodean - 2/4/16 at 1:11pm
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the hell are you smoking GW2 is still b2p

It totally isn't. Only the expansion is. I played a class to like lv 30 and it's kinda more of the same MMO combat, eh. For Free!

Not sure why, but I enjoyed BnS a million times more than that somehow. (To be fair, what I saw of GW2 was far from bad. I can see why some people would enjoy it.) Of course they're both pretty standard MMOs so it's not like I have expectations.
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Calling BS on this. I was in the first closed beta and had TS (on and off), mumble, razer, steam, and many other programs running with no problem.

I am in the beta as well. A simple google search will prove me right. Just google xigncode rootkit. I am not the only user who has experienced this. Xigncode is bad juju.
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