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post #21 of 69
Just curious, but what makes 'Noctua's bearing' any better than others?

I use lots of different fans it the mid to lower top-end price range with bearing having lots of different names some of which are ball bearings. Several have been in use 3-6 years with no issues I haven't had a single fan wear out or fail. Before that I used cheaper fans, some of which were in use for 6-7 years. Even then I had very few wear out or fail.

To me sound level and P-Q curve are far more important then the bearing.
post #22 of 69
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Just curious, but what makes 'Noctua's bearing' any better than others?

I use lots of different fans it the mid to lower top-end price range with bearing having lots of different names some of which are ball bearings. Several have been in use 3-6 years with no issues I haven't had a single fan wear out or fail. Before that I used cheaper fans, some of which were in use for 6-7 years. Even then I had very few wear out or fail.

To me sound level and P-Q curve are far more important then the bearing.

Well, every time I order Gentle Typhoons, I usually have to order at least one extra since in my experience I will receive at least one with excessive bearing noise. Just ordered 3 recently, one has zero bearing noise, one has just slight bearing noise not enough to be heard unless your ear is near it, the 3rd has extreme bearing noise and will be going back. I've never had any issues with any bearing noise from my Noctua fans.

EDIT: The reason I ordered new Gentle Typhoons is I had the bearing in one of mine fail after 2 1/2 years and the second one was starting to show the same symptoms.
post #23 of 69
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Originally Posted by Tyler Dalton View Post

Well, every time I order Gentle Typhoons, I usually have to order at least one extra since in my experience I will receive at least one with excessive bearing noise. Just ordered 3 recently, one has zero bearing noise, one has just slight bearing noise not enough to be heard unless your ear is near it, the 3rd has extreme bearing noise and will be going back. I've never had any issues with any bearing noise from my Noctua fans.

EDIT: The reason I ordered new Gentle Typhoons is I had the bearing in one of mine fail after 2 1/2 years and the second one was starting to show the same symptoms.
I think you are one of only a few who has had GT bearing problems in less than 3 years, While not unheard of it is far from common .. although it seems to be happening more often recently.

That said, I still don't see how that makes Noc bearings any better. Shipping damage has nothing to do with bearing quality. biggrin.gif
And even Noctua have some bearing problems, not to mention the clicking common in their iPPC fans at low speeds.
Edited by doyll - 2/5/16 at 2:09am
post #24 of 69
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I think you are one of only a few who has had GT bearing problems in less than 3 years, While not unheard of it is far from common .. although it seems to be happening more often recently.

And even Noctua hae some bearing problems, not to mention the clicking common in their iPPC fans at low speeds.

Yep, that is usually my luck. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of my problems are due to shipping. USPS doesn't exactly treat packages nicely and I don't think those bearings like taking a lot of jarring and they don't pack fans like they would a hard drive.
post #25 of 69
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Originally Posted by MicroCat View Post

Sure, could go all Aquaero. Or other LCD screened distraction. I like the simplicity of PWM splitters. Doesn't get any more user friendly than cpu temp control of all case fans. Setup and forget. I've used a number of fancy fan controllers over the years and the novelty wore off. Too distracting for me now.
Please post their answer. Be curious what they suggest.

coming back to you with Noctua's answer, they basically told me "it's not as if the S12A fans would be unusable for these tasks." when I talked about dust filters and an HDD cage and they added "I suggest you take two NF-P12 fans for the bottom and use the two NF-S12A fans you already have for the HDD and exhaust."

So basically if I hadn't already bought the S12A fans, he probably would've told me to get P12 everywhere. Makes sense to get the P12 where there's dust filters. The S12A on the HDD might act as a little boost to keep the airflow going which is already being pushed by the P12 on the front. And S12A as exhaust because it doesn't have to work as hard anyways especially if there's positive pressure in the case. And of course a nice F12 for radiators and coolers.
post #26 of 69
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Originally Posted by Falmatrix2r View Post

coming back to you with Noctua's answer, they basically told me "it's not as if the S12A fans would be unusable for these tasks." when I talked about dust filters and an HDD cage and they added "I suggest you take two NF-P12 fans for the bottom and use the two NF-S12A fans you already have for the HDD and exhaust."

So basically if I hadn't already bought the S12A fans, he probably would've told me to get P12 everywhere. Makes sense to get the P12 where there's dust filters. The S12A on the HDD might act as a little boost to keep the airflow going which is already being pushed by the P12 on the front. And S12A as exhaust because it doesn't have to work as hard anyways especially if there's positive pressure in the case. And of course a nice F12 for radiators and coolers.

Good answer, without alienating the customer. ;-)

Do you have all those various models already or just the S12As? For my ears, prefer the P12 to the F12 on a cooler.
post #27 of 69
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Good answer, without alienating the customer. ;-)

Do you have all those various models already or just the S12As? For my ears, prefer the P12 to the F12 on a cooler.

I just have 2 S12A for now, one as rear exhaust and one on the bottom as intake with dust filter. That second one is in a bad spot though. I don't know if it's the combination of dust filter + S12A but it's making a higher pitch noise, it's disturbing. As for the P12, I'd really like to get the newer version when it comes out, the A12 and the A 200mm fans. I wouldn't mind the F12 on a cooler since it won't go full speed all the time with PWM control.
post #28 of 69
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I'm waiting for the day Noctua releases a 200mm fan in either black, grey, or white.. I'll be excited nonetheless when they release the 200mm fan but I just cannot stand the 'Noctua' colour scheme.

What stops you from painting the fans to a color scheme of your choice?
post #29 of 69
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What stops you from painting the fans to a color scheme of your choice?

Not sure that's a good idea because a layer of paint results in added weight and it might change the fan's lifetime, the dynamics of the blades. If the colors throws you off, you can still get the redux or industrial version.
post #30 of 69
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Not sure that's a good idea because a layer of paint results in added weight and it might change the fan's lifetime, the dynamics of the blades. If the colors throws you off, you can still get the redux or industrial version.

That's understandable, the side effects of painting a fan (properly) are negligible though.
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