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Just FYI, Google says Angel Munoz is the godfather of e-sports/competitive gaming. I have no idea who he is, maybe if someone claimed he raped them I would know who he is.
He was the founder of the CPL (Cyberathletic Professional League) and the online equivalent CAL (Cyberathletic Amatuer League). The CPL was the precursor to Dreamhack and was even before ESWC and the WCG. CAL was the online league to play Counterstrike in and was around way before CEVO.

I would say Angel Munoz was a great foundation for what eSports is today.

For CS 1.6, Team 3D, Team NoA, the original Schroet Kommando, Eyeballers, Complexity all started in CPL.

For Quake, the CPL make Wombat, Fatal1ty, ZeRo4, czm, cooler.

The CPL World Tour brought Vo0 to light in Painkiller and really put Fnatic on the map. Painkiller was the first tournament to be hosted in ten cities world wide for a one million dollar prize pool and finished off being broadcasted on MTV (which was a ****ty finals).
Edited by denman - 2/5/16 at 1:28pm
post #102 of 108
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My ignorance or your thoughts about e-sports?

You do understand e-sports is way older than Twitch right? You keep throwing around Twitch like it's some pinnacle of e-sports. It's not. Sorry to inform you about that.

Never once said it was, did I?

More assumptions.
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He was the founder of the CPL (Cyberathletic Professional League) and the online equivalent CAL (Cyberathletic Amatuer League). The CPL was the precursor to Dreamhack and was even before ESWC and the WCG. CAL was the online league to play Counterstrike in and was around way before CEVO.

I would say Angel Munoz was a great foundation for what eSports is today.

For CS 1.6, Team 3D, Team NoA, the original Schroet Kommando, Eyeballers, Complexity all started in CPL.

For Quake, the CPL make Wombat, Fatal1ty, ZeRo4, czm, cooler.

The CPL World Tour brought Vo0 to light in Painkiller and really put Fnatic on the map. Painkiller was the first tournament to be hosted in ten cities world wide for a one million dollar prize pool and finished off being broadcasted on MTV (which was a ****ty finals).

Fatal1ty, finally an e-sport name I recognize.
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Life has contributed more to the E-Sport community in name alone than anyone else I can name.

Then you need to pay more attention.

Huge SC2 fan myself, up till now been a big fan of Life, his zerglings always seem to find a way.

But I really don't understand where you get this hero-worship complex from. He's not even the most important SC2 player, let alone the most important esports player.
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No.

He is one of the most popular people in E-Sports, period.

Life basically created the audience by which carried to Dota2 etc, he is literally the Godfather of E-Sports.

Now that's a bit of an exaggeration. He's a great player for sure, but he's popularity is nowhere near the level of legends like Flash, Jaedong or Boxer, which are likely to be recognised even outside Starcraft scene. He's shown some great results and is probably in like top 5 SC2 players in the world, but he's overall contribution to eSports is nothing to write home about.
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My original statement was ment for Life's betting/throwing scandal impact and relevance to the Korean eSprots region - not for the whole world... did not intend for people to take it out of context.

Life along with other Korean eSports professionals are regarded as idols and heroes in their home country. They date hot models and live the celebrity life in Korea similar to how our athletic stars are looked up to in USA.

TDLR: Koreans take their professional gaming and leagues as serious as some of us here for the NFL and NBA. The impact to the Koreans would be something like Kobe or Jordan throwing their NBA games to cook the books for Vegas bookies would be for us.. Or how that NBA Referee was paid for throwing the Phoenix Sun NBA playoff games for Vegas bookies and for his own bets.
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I love Life but saying he is a grandfather of E-sport is laughable at best and really sad at worst.
Considering his age there was Esports before he was even born.
Not even in starcraft he is close to that because of the whole BW legacy. If anyone can be called the grandfather of Starcraft e-sport it has to be BoxeR
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Sigh @Masked

Have you even been to S.Korea and lived there for a year or more, understand the culture and actually live with the community? What you are saying is just based on your knowledge from watching "documentary" vids (of which Korean producers just LOOOOVE to dramatize), forum posts (lelz), and think you know how it is.

Life is well known there yes, but I'm going to repeat once again: he isn't portrayed as a nationwide hero.
He's not even in the same league as a pro baseball player in terms of popularity or earnings. Yes many, many people play SC2 there as if it's like soccer, a very passionate hobby for most.

Please, go read some local S.Korean blogs and news, most people have already forgotten about Life's scandal lol.
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