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They don't have to. All they need is proof that he received money from a party that is directly or indirectly involved in gambling, establish a timeline, and someone to rat him out. I don't know how law works in SK, but that's enough in most western countries to make a case.


That's what I was thinking. All this talk of proving he threw a match is nonsense. If they can prove he accepted money from sources associated with gambling that's really all they have to do.

Edited to include quote from person I was replying to.
Edited by brownbob06 - 2/3/16 at 7:02am
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Yea sad, can you imagine.. corruption even in Esports.. where is the world going ?

yea like you guys say, how is this even provable ?? (I know I'm probably inventing a word biggrin.gif)

the only thing they can prove is if he received money and they can prove where it comes from
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The bottom line is: If there is money to be made, someone will exploit it.
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Yea sad, can you imagine.. corruption even in Esports.. where is the world going ?

yea like you guys say, how is this even provable ?? (I know I'm probably inventing a word biggrin.gif)

the only thing they can prove is if he received money and they can prove where it comes from

I accepted long time ago, there's no even playing in any kind of sport at the top. Only those who are willing to bend / break the rules to get to the next level and those who don't make it to that next level. Some athletes are even willing to change their own gender to make it to that next level, just ask this former female smile.gif

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For those wondering how and why cheating in a professionally competed game in Korea, it is simple; because in SK, an e-sports player is classified as a person with a job (yes if they put e-sports pro in their resume, it is entirely elligible). An e-sports player is also officially classified as a professional, just like a Go player or chess player. They fall under the law of being prosecuted if found guilty for cheating, match fixing, or whatever else illegal.

For those that don't follow SC2, Life was once called the best SC2 Zerg player of all time. He was also at one point called the best SC2 player in the world. For someone of his status in SK (who believe it or not is a celebrity and a public figure with ad revenues), being found guilty for match fixing is pretty much career over.

Dissapointed to see him stoop so low, given his ability to eat through most of the playing field. But SC2 as an e-sport has been quite stagnant. It's been overtaken by mobas primarily and most gaming "houses" in SK now are for moba teams. The money needs to come somewhere indeed.
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For those wondering how and why cheating in a professionally competed game in Korea, it is simple; because in SK, an e-sports player is classified as a person with a job (yes if they put e-sports pro in their resume, it is entirely elligible). An e-sports player is also officially classified as a professional, just like a Go player or chess player. They fall under the law of being prosecuted if found guilty for cheating, match fixing, or whatever else illegal.

For those that don't follow SC2, Life was once called the best SC2 Zerg player of all time. He was also at one point called the best SC2 player in the world. For someone of his status in SK (who believe it or not is a celebrity and a public figure with ad revenues), being found guilty for match fixing is pretty much career over.

Dissapointed to see him stoop so low, given his ability to eat through most of the playing field. But SC2 as an e-sport has been quite stagnant. It's been overtaken by mobas primarily and most gaming "houses" in SK now are for moba teams. The money needs to come somewhere indeed.

I always found the entire macro/keybind situation to be an interesting one.

Yes, you're playing a professional sport but, the fact that you're allowed to completely keybind//macro the entire game really takes the strategy out of the entire picture.

It's akin to playing SC2 on the hardest difficulty...Miss defending the rush and your APM slows down, it's GG...Never really understood the challenge to that but, that's how they like it so, really is what it is.
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For minors maybe. I don't know a place in the world where gambling is outlawed entirely.

edit: Funnily enough, cash esports gambling seems like something actively advertised to minors in the west. Weird stuff.
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In principle, any gambling activities (or speculative activities) are prohibited in Korea. Article 246 of the Criminal Act punishes a person who gambles or bets for the purpose of gaining property by a fine of not more than five million won or a minor fine. Article 247 of Criminal Act prohibits opening of a gambling place for a profit and punishes a person who violates this provision by imprisonment of not more than three years or by a fine not exceeding twenty million won.

However, Korea has allowed certain gambling activities to be operated in the nation under restricted circumstances (e.g., promotion of public welfare, tourism) pursuant to special laws enacted.
http://www.korealaw.com/sub/information/boardView.asp?brdId=corporate&brdIdx=62
Not entirely but the majority is indeed outlawed, and not just for minors.
post #48 of 108
Lol, what an idiot. Threw the sweet life and pay away for one bet, probably felt that he was untouchable like every other celeb. I bet he's been in hundreds of betting schemes, and this is the one he was caught on. Got too greedy with the money, and gets what he deserves.
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Lol, what an idiot. Threw the sweet life and pay away for one bet, probably felt that he was untouchable like every other celeb. I bet he's been in hundreds of betting schemes, and this is the one he was caught on. Got too greedy with the money, and gets what he deserves.

/SMH.
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/SMH.

Care to explain? Didn't know fraud and illegal activity is okay in your eyes, especially when you have life made, but alright.
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