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Funny you should say that, the only drives I've ever had die suddenly - as in they suddenly fail to power up - were Hitachi 7K500s; I think the circuit board failed. I bought a few of these over time since they were OEM (as in warranty) and going very cheap on eBay, shipped from Hong Kong. Had them in RAID so never lost anything.

At least the Seagates gave me a chance to scrape what I could off of them. tongue.gif

That's one experience. I've had lots of experiences with Hitachi products, none of them bad.

On that note, I think the last time I had a hard drive fail was in 1998. It was 2gb.
    
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...There maybe something in that. tongue.gif I read somewhere once that 3TB drives are in fact 4TB drives that didn't make the cut, much like AMD and their 3-core CPUs. If that's the case, then it would make sense that bad platters are being recycled into lower capacity units. It would also point to what? as the cause of failure...

If that is true, it might explain why 3TB HDDs, no matter who makes them, get poor user reviews compared to other sizes.
     
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Last drives I bought were two 2TB NAS drives from Seagate. One died ~ 9 months into use. Tossed the other one just under principle. Going SSD for all storage requirements soon.

Before the NAS drive failure, I also had a 1TB Barracuda that gave up the ghost just past 1 year of use. I swear it's like some of the drives are designed to fail just outside of warranty. And speaking of HDD warranties, wth is the point? ALL the manufacturers only give refurbished units as a replacement.

That has always blown my mind. How the hell that's legal is beyond me. I buy a NEW product, under warranty, it dies, and I am given back a refurb that is in as bad or worse shape as the original unit.

What the hell kind of warranty is that? It's why I never bothered cashing in on a warranty for a HDD. Waste of time and shipping cost. Sooooo glad to be done with mechanical drives and their shady manufacturers/warranties.
 
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Last drives I bought were two 2TB NAS drives from Seagate. One died ~ 9 months into use. Tossed the other one just under principle. Going SSD for all storage requirements soon.

Before the NAS drive failure, I also had a 1TB Barracuda that gave up the ghost just past 1 year of use. I swear it's like some of the drives are designed to fail just outside of warranty. And speaking of HDD warranties, wth is the point? ALL the manufacturers only give refurbished units as a replacement.

That has always blown my mind. How the hell that's legal is beyond me. I buy a NEW product, under warranty, it dies, and I am given back a refurb that is in as bad or worse shape as the original unit.

What the hell kind of warranty is that? It's why I never bothered cashing in on a warranty for a HDD. Waste of time and shipping cost. Sooooo glad to be done with mechanical drives and their shady manufacturers/warranties.

I agree that, for at least the first 20% of the warranty, a replacement HDD should be new. After that, a refurbished drive is reasonable, especially the further into the warranty the drive is. If done correctly, a furb can be just as good as, mayhap even better than, a new drive.
Edited by Lady Fitzgerald - 2/3/16 at 8:48pm
     
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I agree that, for at least the 20% of the warranty, a replacement HDD should be new. After that, a refurbished drive is reasonable, especially the further into the warranty the drive is. If done correctly, a furb can be just as good as, mayhap even better than, a new drive.

Fun fact at least from Seagate. The "refurbished HDD" The ones with Green border have never died on me biggrin.gif.
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That's one experience. I've had lots of experiences with Hitachi products, none of them bad.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I'd still happily buy Hitachi/HGST and Toshiba ahead of Seagate, given the choice. I was just making the point that in terms of a sudden death, Hitachi are the only ones which have done that to me. smile.gif
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I love hitachi drives
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Hitachi is a great brand, no matter the product. I had a Japanese car filled with Hitachi parts, it was the most reliable car I've ever had. My Hitachi drill/impact set is also great and reliable. I've never had any problems with Hitachi anything.

Interesting.

Had a Hitachi A/C that worked for 15 years, sold my house along with it. Don't know if it's still alive. biggrin.gif
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To all the people talking about how useless these reports from backblaze are because they are unrealistically harsh conditions for the average home user - How is that any different than any stress test used to benchmark CPU coolers, drop test used to test cellphone durability, etc?

Sure, the failure rate of a particular drive might be exaggerated when used in these worst-case scenarios and will actually be much lower in most real-world scenarios, but that is true across the board for all the models tested.

If a particular drive has a very low failure rate when being run 24/7 in a rack with 39 other drives, then there is a pretty good chance it will have a low failure rate being used 24/7 in my PC with 6 other spinning drives, 13 fans, and a waterpump.

I'd much rather know that, then know how long it will last sitting on a shelf unused, or being used as the only moving part in an HTPC. In those best case scenarios, just about any drive is going to be reasonably reliable and I'd be basing my purchase on other aspects anyway such as price and acoustics respectively.
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