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Your prices show HGST price is same as "enterprise grade" Red.
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The Red is not enterprise grade, it is a consumer/entry-level NAS drive: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/internal/nas/

You are thinking of the Re, Se, and Ae lines: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/internal/enterprise/

You are also mischaracterizing prices:

WD Consumer:
2TB Green: $100 - high price probably due to being EOL
2TB Blue: $85
2TB Red: $79.99
DeskStar 2TB: $79.99

That's weird - the red is the cheapest and the same price as the HGST.

WD Enterprise: Do note that all of these drives are actually physically labeled as "Enterprise-class"
2TB Re: $129, for an old model
2TB Se: $129.84
2TB Ae: 6TB only
Edited by claes - 2/14/16 at 7:16pm
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post #192 of 261
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The Red is not enterprise grade, it is a consumer/entry-level NAS drive: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/internal/nas/

You are thinking of the Re, Se, and Ae lines: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/internal/enterprise/

i think he meant Red Pro: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=1280

according to WD: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/internal/nas/
WD Red = Home server
WD Red Pro = Business server
WD Re = Data Center server
Edited by epic1337 - 2/14/16 at 7:34pm
post #193 of 261
That might be the case, but all of the WD Reds Backblaze uses are EFRX, i.e. not pro (which is still a consumer drive, to be certain).
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i think he meant Red Pro: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=1280

according to WD: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/internal/nas/
WD Red = Home server
WD Red Pro = Business server
WD Re = Data Center server

I understand your point now but look like WD is the worst now:

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what does that have to do with what i said? lachen.gif
post #196 of 261
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Originally Posted by claes View Post

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The Red is not enterprise grade, it is a consumer/entry-level NAS drive: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/internal/nas/

You are thinking of the Re, Se, and Ae lines: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/internal/enterprise/

You are also mischaracterizing prices:

WD Consumer:
2TB Green: $100 - high price probably due to being EOL
2TB Blue: $85
2TB Red: $79.99
DeskStar 2TB: $79.99

That's weird - the red is the cheapest and the same price as the HGST.

WD Enterprise: Do note that all of these drives are actually physically labeled as "Enterprise-class"
2TB Re: $129, for an old model
2TB Se: $129.84
2TB Ae: 6TB only

I have no idea why Green is that much higher price while it is the slowest one.
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I understand your point now but look like WD is the worst now:
This is a poor way to interpret the data. It is best to look at each individual drive rather than overall failures.

They deploy many WD drives. Many of the WD drives began to have increased failure rates this year, after three years of deployment.

Similarly, the 4TB Seagate drive they use is doing great, while many other Seagate drives they use aren't.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-q3-2015/

Then again this does not seem to be either here or there.
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I have no idea why Green is that much higher price while it is the slowest one.
EOL means end of life, although technically they are 5400rpm blues now (no z at the end of the model number).

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=780
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=770#Tab8
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This is a poor way to interpret the data. It is best to look at each individual drive rather than overall failures.

They deploy many WD drives. Many of the WD drives began to have increased failure rates this year, after three years of deployment.

Similarly, the 4TB Seagate drive they use is doing great, while many other Seagate drives they use aren't.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-q3-2015/

Then again this does not seem to be either here or there.
EOL means end of life, although technically they are 5400rpm blues now (no z at the end of the model number).

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=780
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=770#Tab8

The fact is that if I random pick a wd model then on average the chance of fail is higher than all other brands in the chart. seagate 3tb is the only one which is far worse than other, if we pull that out then just let seagate increases its ranking but wd is still the worst.
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The Red is not enterprise grade, it is a consumer/entry-level NAS drive: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/internal/nas/

You are thinking of the Re, Se, and Ae lines: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/internal/enterprise/

You are also mischaracterizing prices:

WD Consumer:
2TB Green: $100 - high price probably due to being EOL
2TB Blue: $85
2TB Red: $79.99
DeskStar 2TB: $79.99

That's weird - the red is the cheapest and the same price as the HGST.

WD Enterprise: Do note that all of these drives are actually physically labeled as "Enterprise-class"
2TB Re: $129, for an old model
2TB Se: $129.84
2TB Ae: 6TB only

I have no idea why Green is that much higher price while it is the slowest one.

Because the Greens are no longer being made and speculators are trying to make a killing on them. The Greens have been replaced with the new 5400 rpm Blues.
     
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Because the Greens are no longer being made and speculators are trying to make a killing on them. The Greens have been replaced with the new 5400 rpm Blues.

Why blue is 5400 while Seagate and Other are faster with similar price? And actually wd has the worst fail rate.
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