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Wow! Hagens Berman. These guys are heavy hitters. In my old job I use to be a copy editor for an online legal publication and this law firm has always been involved with a lot of class action lawsuits. First time I've seen them handle tech-related lawsuits. They're more into securities fraud class action lawsuits, IIRC
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Because the Greens are no longer being made and speculators are trying to make a killing on them. The Greens have been replaced with the new 5400 rpm Blues.

Why blue is 5400 while Seagate and Other are faster with similar price? And actually wd has the worst fail rate.

The 5400 rpm Blues are replacing the older Greens which were designed to use less power. Unless you move massive amounts of data at a time, you will not notice the speed difference. the Greens, no Blues, were designed to consume low amounts of power, hence the lower speed.

As far as the WDs doing worse, if you read the full report, you will see that the WDs that failed had been in service for several years.
     
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The 5400 rpm Blues are replacing the older Greens which were designed to use less power. Unless you move massive amounts of data at a time, you will not notice the speed difference. the Greens, no Blues, were designed to consume low amounts of power, hence the lower speed.

As far as the WDs doing worse, if you read the full report, you will see that the WDs that failed had been in service for several years.

I don't see a big different the yearly contribution between WD and the rest. You can show your analysis if you want. A much slower HDD of course consumes less power and I don't think this is a solid selling point. If it can have same speed but use much less power then it is advanced. 5400 vs 7200 RPM is a pretty big different for sequence reading/writing which is what we mainly use now for HDD.
post #204 of 261
I have a 2tb Seagate Hdd, and I'm the only one on OCN making a scientific report by affirming I can't say anything about its reliability, because I replaced it with an SSD for the sake of noise.

Bow to me.

By the way, did anyone see this article from Tomshardware? Suspicious timing is suspicious.

(Yes, my post has a taste of irony and a part of trolling)
     
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This lawsuit should cover every drive Seagate ever sold over the past six years...
 
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This lawsuit should cover every drive Seagate ever sold over the past six years...

If you look at the graph, WD is worse, then WD should get lawsuit instead of Seagate? LOL
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I have a 2tb Seagate Hdd, and I'm the only one on OCN making a scientific report by affirming I can't say anything about its reliability, because I replaced it with an SSD for the sake of noise.

Bow to me.

By the way, did anyone see this article from Tomshardware? Suspicious timing is suspicious.

(Yes, my post has a taste of irony and a part of trolling)

article like this is just marketing. Look at Tom Hardware article to protect "chipgate" of iphone 6s, you know how Tom Hardware do business. If you want to know how they really do testing or even do testing at all, go to their China Factory. They may do testing for like 1 out of 10000 and even manually change the test result because their china staff doesn't care about it and only care if they receive salary on time.
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The 5400 rpm Blues are replacing the older Greens which were designed to use less power. Unless you move massive amounts of data at a time, you will not notice the speed difference. the Greens, no Blues, were designed to consume low amounts of power, hence the lower speed.

As far as the WDs doing worse, if you read the full report, you will see that the WDs that failed had been in service for several years.

actually my old blue is quite a bit slower than the red i have, probably due to platter density.
my old blue is supposedly 7200rpm, while the red is 5400rpm, so RPM hardly matters when it comes to sequential speed.

in any case, these new "blue" could be considered an upgrade in terms of speed and capacity.
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actually my old blue is quite a bit slower than the red i have, probably due to platter density.
my old blue is supposedly 7200rpm, while the red is 5400rpm, so RPM hardly matters when it comes to sequential speed.

in any case, these new "blue" could be considered an upgrade in terms of speed and capacity.

Tom hardware has a clear testing results compare. 7200 is definitely much faster than green for sequence speed. I am working so no time to show the data, you can go to Tom hardware to have a look.
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Tom hardware has a clear testing results compare. 7200 is definitely much faster than green for sequence speed. I am working so no time to show the data, you can go to Tom hardware to have a look.

did you even read what i said? seriously whats up with all these guys failing to comprehend posts, well not like i'm one to talk.

the platter density should be the culprit as to why the 5400RPM drive writes faster than the 7200RPM drive.
in this case, the 5400RPM drive has double density than the 7200RPM drive.

e.g.
track 1MB * 7200RPM (120 revolutions per second) = 120MB/s
track 2MB * 5400RPM (90 revolutions per second) = 180MB/s


for anyone who doesn't know what "track" means.

Edited by epic1337 - 2/15/16 at 12:35am
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