With what I've read at the source, here and the SA forums, I can't see Pascal hitting market before mid H2 at best. Combine that with nvidia lying about having silicone, waving Maxwell 2 around as if it was Pascal is eerily reminiscent of the Fermi launch, lacking only the wood-screws and a chopped off PCB. Either way, noone should be supriced with a first "big" GPU launch from nvidia on a new process being less than stellar.
First 40nm: GF100 aka Fermi. Was never sold as a "fully enabled" chip. Fixed with the GF110.
First 28nm: GK100. Chip killed, replaced by a disabled GK110 as the original Titan. Full chip released to consumers (780ti) 9 months later.
That said, nvidia is the one with the most experience with huge chips (>500mm2) and if someone is gonna pull it off, it's gonna be nvidia. As for how long that is gonna take, I'd guess new-years at the earliest for the.
Originally Posted by carlhil2
I wouldn't call it "hate..", but, choice. some people are just more comfortable with a certain team for other reasons also. I mean, do the guys who bought the Fury X hate nvidia because they chose to buy the slower card? and by "slower", I mean compared to like 90% of the 980Ti's out of the box...and some of these guys chose the Fury X over the 980Ti AFTER telling others to "wait til Fiji drops to see which is the better card..", etc, etc...
As an owner of a Fury X, I can give you my reasons:
Support for PLP eyefinity (AFAIK, not possible with nvidia HW) (5440x1600)Better IO (3x full-sides DP)
re-checked my sources, seems there are 980ti's with 3 full-sized DP
Performance scaling better with resolution (5440x1600 > 4K)
No interest in supporting things like nvidia gameworks.
Known good compatibility with DP MST hubs (I have many screens)
Highest performance available supporting PLP eyefinty. (Was considering going from 2x 7970 -> 2x 285 just for that feature)
Better performance over time.
Most of the games I play are not "day one AAA". I played the last bioshock about a year ago. I play small, silly indie games. I play CS:GO. By the time I get and play a AAA title, it's months if not years since release, and most -> all issues are worked out anyway. And, by going back and comparing the 7970 with the 680/ 280x - 770 I notice the one on top switching. Perhaps this is a one-time thing, perhaps it's not. Also, with OC, over 600GB/s of bandthwith is funny.Edited by Dupl3xxx - 2/4/16 at 6:22am