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I have been trying to put windows 7 on an HP G6 that came with windows 8, and UEFI has been a real pain. I'm trying to install windows 7 on this lady's laptop for her, as it is the OS she is familiar with and its what she wants. She doesn't like windows 8 or 10, she wants 7. I fix computers for people for a little side cash. Anyway, apparently this new UEFI crap is something designed to save us from ourselves. I have tried every way in the world trying to get it to take windows 7, and it just won't.

At this point I'm just going to go ahead and put windows 10 on there for her and do my best to make it look and be like W7. W7 is what she wanted, and I think it really sucks that I can't provide that. Of course I will tell her that and charge a lot less, if anything at all. I've done a fair bit of research on this, and it appears that getting UEFI to accept and load W7 on most of these new notebooks is a nightmare. Some of them will respond to some of the methods, others like this one just throw one rather convenient error message after another.

So if anyone knows of a clear cut, simple way to make W7 always work on UEFI computers I'd love to hear it. I tried making a USB stick, that didn't work. A dvd disk didn't work. Its usually not true when someone says this but I really do feel like I've exhausted all methods. I think they really, really, REALLY don't want people going back to W7.
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post #2 of 14
Nothing to do with UEFI. Disable secure boot and install w/e you want.
The only thing "preventing" to install win7 would be non existence of drivers. Some asus laptops don't have wifi drivers that works under w7 for example.
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post #3 of 14
Go into UEFI settings, turn off Secure Boot, and Enable Legacy mode (sometimes called CSM), then install Windows 7. Done.

If any drivers are missing, just get generic ones from the device manufacturer, ie Atheros Ralink, etc.
    
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According to microsoft, it has everything to do with UEFI.

Also the legacy setting won't stick, it just defaults back to the previous setting whenever you restart.
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Have you checked for a BIOS update?
 
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UEFI has been around a long time now. Aside from secure boot as mentioned above i have never had issues putting win 7 on a machine.
 
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You need to set storage option in bios to UEFI. Then create a usb. Here is a video detailing how to:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sDm8rWr3dV8

If you need help I would be happy to help as UEFI is a little terror at times.
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Originally Posted by PhotonFanatic View Post

According to microsoft, it has everything to do with UEFI....

Your first mistake is believing anything MS puts out for tech support tongue.gif

As others have pointed out, disable secure boot. If it uses a TPM chip and has an option disable that too.

Another very common issue is that most new laptops do not have USB 2 ports, only usb 3 which Win 7 doesnt have the drivers for. There are ways to incorporate the drivers into the install.

Also, can you relay any of the specific messages/errors you got? Based on what you told us we can only give generic generalized advice. With specific error messages we can provide more specific input.
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I had a very similar issue issue trying to install Windows 7 on a laptop that came with Windows 8. I ended up having to pull the hard drive and format it in the hot-swap bay of another machine and install Windows 7 to it there, then move it back to the laptop. It seemed like as long as the BIOS on the laptop saw something related to Windows 8 on that hard drive it just refused to allow the machine to boot from anything else. Maybe give the drive a shot in a different machine if all else fails
 
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post #10 of 14
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UEFI has been around a long time now. Aside from secure boot as mentioned above i have never had issues putting win 7 on a machine.

I'm afraid you may be a bit behind times. UEFI has undergone some pretty significant changes over the years, especially recently. You're probably just dealing with the older versions that were friendlier. As other members said, its a terror these days.
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Originally Posted by Team Grinder View Post

You need to set storage option in bios to UEFI. Then create a usb. Here is a video detailing how to:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sDm8rWr3dV8

If you need help I would be happy to help as UEFI is a little terror at times.

I tried the USB first, and that is another time I got "Invalid operating system" or some similar error message. Thank you for the link though.

But a couple people here have said that I need to turn on Legacy support. Again, that setting, as well as disabling secure boot, doesn't stick. It just reverses the settings as soon as I restart in order to move forward with what I'm doing.
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I had a very similar issue issue trying to install Windows 7 on a laptop that came with Windows 8. I ended up having to pull the hard drive and format it in the hot-swap bay of another machine and install Windows 7 to it there, then move it back to the laptop. It seemed like as long as the BIOS on the laptop saw something related to Windows 8 on that hard drive it just refused to allow the machine to boot from anything else. Maybe give the drive a shot in a different machine if all else fails

That's exactly what I ended up doing. And still nothing. Its like the computer would fight me at every turn. It would say "The boot method is not valid" or "An error occurred" or any number of complete BS reasons. Then it would shut down. I swear they just don't want anyone going back to windows 7.

Thanks for the help all, but I have decided just to put windows 10 on the computer, as supposedly, its a good deal more like W7 than W8 was. And then I'll go through all the methods and little programs available online, to make W10 look and behave more like W7. In the end, it does look like I should be able to make W10 largely seem to be W7. I'll just tell her what I did, and give her a week to decide if she is satisfied with it. If not, I won't make her pay. I told her I'd be able to put W7 on there, but I failed and I was unaware that UEFI had become such a pita to deal with.
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