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post #1 of 42
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Hello,

Since my 8th AUO monitor turned out to be crap like 7 before him (2 stuck pixels in the middle of screen), I am thinking about getting different approach.

I am thinking about getting second 980Ti for the money that I payed for crap AUO monitors and buying 4K TV to it. Since we were planning to buy new TV with my wife anyway, she will cover half price (plus selling old TV) so it won't be expensive.

Now- can someone reccomend good 55-65" TV for gaming? All I want is 4K and decent gaming on it. Rest extra features are not that important.
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post #2 of 42
You will be underwhelmed with just one 980TI and a 4k TV and will likely be looking for another GPU to SLI in the near future.

Best advice I can give is wait for pascal and DP 1.3. The state of 2160p@60hz gaming is not great compared to 1440p@144hz.

Its only 2-4 months away.

I have a few 4k tvs and I always end back up on my 1440p because of how bad 2160p usually runs.
post #3 of 42
Yea figure 20-30 fps with a GTX980 at 4k on average. For fun let's estimate the display lag of a 4kTV vs 1080p monitor:
4K TV: 30fps = 33ms + 17ms processing / pixel lag (never seen a TV below 17ms) = 50ms
1080p monitor: 144fps = 7ms + 4ms processing / pixel lag (best case) = 11ms
There will be major persistence blur and stuttering seen with the TV due to the low frame rates.

This 4k TV scales to 1080p with minimal processing, so you get both decent lag and decent framerates:
http://www.displaylag.com/defeat-input-lag-the-best-hdtvs-for-gaming-holiday-2015/
Wish it accepted 120hz input, which would chop off another 8ms and cut persistence blur in half at the same time.
I've only seen one or two TVs that accept 120hz input.
post #4 of 42
I tried 4k gaming but like he said, the input lag is the worst. My Samsung is 96ms, my acer x34 is 15ms. You can feel the difference big time. Even a regular 60hz PC monitor has way better response time. What are you willing to sacrifice?
post #5 of 42
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As I said in first post I am considering buying SECOND 980TI. I already have one smile.gif. So I will have SLI 980 TI

I don't play competetive FPS games, only Single Player games, RPGs, some MOBAs. I am just considering 4K TV now as quality of new gaming monitors is total crap (since I can't say more vulgar word)
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post #6 of 42
I'm thoroughly enjoying my 4K Samsung 7500 40". I'm not competitive at all and find 60Hz perfectly adequate for my gaming. The input time on PC mode is also surprisingly good, low 20's I believe.
post #7 of 42
I do agree that picture and problems are less on the big screens. But they don't have Gsync, which is a HUGE deal. I thought Gsync was a scam until I got a gsync monitor. Now I know I will never buy a pc monitor that I use for gaming without it. It is a GOD SEND for SLI users as it gets rid of almost all noticeable stutter.

Check out the XB280HK and there's a newer one. Maybe the XB281HK but its 28 inch gsync freesync, but it is ACER soo. I had one and loved it but sold it to a friend who now loves it. There is also a 30something inch but its around 1300 and out of your budget I think.

But If you go 4k man, get a pc monitor and not a big screen if you plan to do any gaming on it.
post #8 of 42
I just picked up a 4k Vizo tv. I'm running it off a single 980 ti without issue. I'm playing with an Xbone controller which I'd assume you would also.

This TV destroys my Acer, 1440p/144Hz/IPS/Gsync monitor in PQ. No light bleed, deep blacks, great contrast. Playing on it shows you what next gen is really about... Visually. redface.gif

Now, gameplay wise there is a night and day difference. Gaming on my Acer Gsync feels natural. Games are easy and I feel like a much better gamer. On the TV I have a much more difficult time doing things that were simple for me on the Gsync monitor. Dying light is really giving me issues on the tv compared to monitor.


I'd suggest checking these out at Walmart...

http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-M43-C1-43-Inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B00T63YUTE


I picked up the 43" model. The Walmart I checked it out at also had the 55", 60", and 65" on display. What attracted me to this TV was the fact that it's rear lit compared to edge lit. This means you shouldn't have things like light bleed. The picture quality on this thing is pretty amazing for the price. It's on par with my plasma in most cases.

There's one huge weakness though. It does not support 4:4:4 chroma at 4k 60Hz. Should only be a deal if you're going to use the TV for work related tasks such as photoshop or word.




*No back light bleed on these guys. (testing out 21:9 1440p UW)

     
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post #9 of 42
Alot of them are only 4:2:0 especially the cheaper ones. That makes it utterly useless for any fine color desktop application. Alot of text looks blurry where it should be very sharp, especially with 8 million pixels at hand. Kinda defeats the purpose.

Gaming is ok but you can still see 4:2:0 vs 4:4:4 very sharply if you put two identical Tvs side by side to compare.
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Alot of them are only 4:2:0 especially the cheaper ones. That makes it utterly useless for any fine color desktop application. Alot of text looks blurry where it should be very sharp, especially with 8 million pixels at hand. Kinda defeats the purpose.

Gaming is ok but you can still see 4:2:0 vs 4:4:4 very sharply if you put two identical Tvs side by side to compare.

If you want to do fine color desktop work or word processing I'd look elsewhere. You want to game and watch movies then this thing is beautiful.

Only real issue I'm having is it's too big for my desk. I really wish they had a 39" or 40" model.

Problem I saw when looking into 4k TV's are many of them are still edge-lit. Basically edge-lit is sucks and you end up with light bleed, clouding, and very poor screen uniformity.

Personally I was willing to sacrifice 4:4:4 for rear lit. Though, I have two computers in my computer room and more monitors then I can fit into my setup. I'm typing this up on my backup rig that now has my XB270HU hooked up to it.
     
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