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post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by Imglidinhere View Post

You can usually get little ram heatsinks off fleabay for cheap. I got some for like... $6, and I plan on trying to help with the temps on my old Toshiba. Hopefully a laptop cooler like the U3 with those directed fans should do a little better at cooling it off afterwards.

However, doing such a thing voids the warranty in any case, so tamper at your own risk.
Also, that's literally impossible. You cannot be idling, with any air or water cooling setup, at the same temperature that your ambient room is at. It's just a physical impossibility unless the machine is off.

I highly doubt you're resting at 20*C on both chips. Best check your software and look again. Unless it's cold where you are, and very cold in your room at that, you aren't idling at 20*C in that notebook. My machine runs cooler than yours by far and I'm sitting at 45*C idle for the CPU and around the same for the GPU...

LMAO. No, the MSI idles lower than any of the laptops pretty much. My 2 asus's idled at 40-44c with the temps in my living room around 66-68F (18-20c). My laptop at idle is doing nothing with how fast that NVMe drive is so it's really doing nothing. The fans on the MSI even when Idle are still at 1300rpms but silent. Also when my laptop is sitting in my place in 66f temps, the laptop is pretty chilled, the copper heatsinks that are huge in this model are like copper plates. They stay cold for a while if I don't do anything but turn my laptop on and use the net. It will stay very close to ambient temps. Once I run some benchmarks or games then the idle temps go up about 3-5c over ambient temps and stay that high above, but this laptop idles way lower than any other brand I had or seen, 2 Asus's in past 4 months, 1 Alienware 15 R2 past 3 months, MSI past month and a half and staying lol.

Here's a screen shot of temps in Realtemp on cpu, then you can see the temps of both gpu and cpu in Dragon Gaming software. My ambients right now are 70-71f and I have it warm today. It's only 14f outside ( -10c ) HAHA tongue.gif

Oh, and this is running my 4ghz Core 4ghz Cache Overclock on the 6820K too after some Cinebench R15 runs so it warmed up the cpu, but you can see the lows it was when it first booted up.
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post #12 of 17
2 degrees above ambient? Color me skeptical lol

You don't use hardware acceleration when surfing the Web?
    
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post #13 of 17
From what I have read these sensors are designed to be accurate at load operating temperatures, and really aren't very reliable when idle.

I have a 8320 that idles below ambient, once it gets cranked up the readings look a lot more realistic.
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post #14 of 17
Grab CoreTemp and run the tests again, or run HWiNFO64 and show the results there. I still say it's pretty much impossible that you're idling that low.
     
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post #15 of 17
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Grab CoreTemp and run the tests again, or run HWiNFO64 and show the results there. I still say it's pretty much impossible that you're idling that low.

I have no reason to lie guys. I will run any test you want. I will show you anything you want to see ran.

Do you know the best video recording software that is free so I could record what is going on on my desktop (on the laptop) with the programs running so you can watch the live video of before, start, running, stop, idle down again. I will gladly run stress test and show you what's up. I was amazed too when I saw how much cooler this laptop runs compared to the rest. MSI just has a nice fan curve / profile they use and it's quiet and keeps the cpu and gpu very cool at idle and load. I couldn't be happier honestly biggrin.gif
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post #16 of 17
Its not that your lying as the sensor isnt accurate at low temperatures. The applications that pull sensor readouts are likely all pulling the information from the same sensor.
    
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I downloaded a software to record what I'm doing on my desktop screen so I could record video of the idle state, then stress, then go back to idle. The thing is that with this program I downloaded ( Camtasia ?? ) as soon as I open this program it's running my cpu up to 15-18% usage as you can see in the video. You can see tho in the Realtemp program where my idle temps really are before I opened the recording software, just watch where I point with my mouse cursor.

I have my cpu being used at 15-18% from that program, and then I throw it into 100% load with XTU stress test on the CPU and this is with my 24/7 overclock I use with 4ghz on the Core and 4ghz on the Cache for 1/1 ratio as I like to run it personally. But anyways, this gives you some idea. If you know of a recording software that doesn't put your i7 cpu with hyperthreading to 18% usage doing nothing really lol, let me know and I'll make a new video because I don't really like that software how it acts.

Lets see if this shows up right lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpOIh9ssenw&feature=youtu.be
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